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Habits. That's the word I should have used instead of reflex in the other post. Once you have the right word, the solution goes without saying.

I understood for the touch habit.
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In terms of PU, this forum is filled with what people 'think' women desire: alpha, humor, sexual tension, etc . . . Many guys tend to grab 'one of these' things and use it as a ramrod in attempt to storm the castle. The idea is to introduce a few of these things to see what gets her to lower the draw bridge.

*Start off with one routine . . .anything, something that is beyond a casual chit chat and own it. For now, you can make this # close as platonic as you'd like, "I'll send you beach photos from Brazil". . . Just start making simple # closes and make friends. You'll need to figure out for yourself that this is just what people do. . . otherwise, there would be no reason for the telephone.
That's the checkpoint I'm going to: #close. Unfortunately, I take the plane Wednesday, I won't have enough time to do that.
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**There are people who suffer from anxieties but give one guy a violin, put him up on stage, and he looks incredibly comfortable. Some are shy in front of a camera but give some guy a football and a uniform and he's very comfortable. Figure out what makes you comfortable. And if possible, bring it with you. Whether this is a mindset or a prop, bring it with you. (A piano probably wouldn't work . . . but it can . . .)
Really hard question here. I'll think about it.

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A piano probably wouldn't work . . . but it can . .
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DAY 36: keeping working.
A little game session and a little thought about cold approach.

Just a small post to tell you that I have work a little on my game today. Yesterday showed me how inconstant I was: being tired was enough to screw my the "good" game I was having recently. I slept well and decided to go out a little in the afternoon.

I've been out 1h30. I went to a mall and opened 5 employees to keep working in the conversation stuff. I stayed more than 10 minutes speaking with each of them. That was just a little practice and not an actual sarging session, so I set up no goal.

On cold approach.
I do need to become more sexual though: think about sex while approaching, hold the tension... I've just had a conversation with galaxy_pua in the chat. It seems like the conversation does not even really matters, it's just about having enough time to make her feel the "vibe" of your body language and eye-contact. I was missing that one thing: eye contact and body language are actually THE key elements.

Time for me to sleep. Last chance to do some game in France tomorrow.

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**There are people who suffer from anxieties but give one guy a violin, put him up on stage, and he looks incredibly comfortable. Some are shy in front of a camera but give some guy a football and a uniform and he's very comfortable. Figure out what makes you comfortable. And if possible, bring it with you. Whether this is a mindset or a prop, bring it with you. (A piano probably wouldn't work . . . but it can . . .)
Really hard question here. I'll think about it.
Come on . . . this is simple! What about the camera you have in your photo? Looks like a fancy little toy to me. You bring that around, take photos . . . and even while you chat you go, "Wait a second . . ." - snap, snap. You know your camera don't you? The lens, the memory, speed, etc . . . Wouldn't you feel comfortable chatting and using your camera in front of others? Where would you like to travel to take photos? Where have you already been? A passport alone can spark a great conversation.
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I do need to become more sexual though: think about sex while approaching, hold the tension... I've just had a conversation with galaxy_pua in the chat. It seems like the conversation does not even really matters, it's just about having enough time to make her feel the "vibe" of your body language and eye-contact. I was missing that one thing: eye contact and body language are actually THE key elements.
^Not that this is wrong but I believe most guys believe in 'sex, sex, sex' because this is the way THEY FUNCTION. They can't imagine that another person (a woman) cannot be turned on by crazy porn and highly sexual, extroverted chats about sex.

To me, creating a "CONNECTION" is more important than escalating sexuality. Even the freakiest chicks get turned on through some sort of emotional connection. Once you have that, everything becomes a green light.


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Come on . . . this is simple! What about the camera you have in your photo? Looks like a fancy little toy to me. You bring that around, take photos . . . and even while you chat you go, "Wait a second . . ." - snap, snap. You know your camera don't you? The lens, the memory, speed, etc . . . Wouldn't you feel comfortable chatting and using your camera in front of others? Where would you like to travel to take photos? Where have you already been? A passport alone can spark a great conversation.
Guess you're right! :)
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^Not that this is wrong but I believe most guys believe in 'sex, sex, sex' because this is the way THEY FUNCTION. They can't imagine that another person (a woman) cannot be turned on by crazy porn and highly sexual, extroverted chats about sex.
I do think like you and I'm not in that state of mind either. What I'm saying, as you understood, is that I think that having a sexual tension in me while I approach is a good thing. In other word, being "turned on" will maybe prevent me from the most basic friendly conversations. Yet, for now, I really don't feel that "sexual tension" I may have experienced with pleasure on some of my first sarging sessions. I guess it will come back with Brazil.
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To me, creating a "CONNECTION" is more important than escalating sexuality. Even the freakiest chicks get turned on through some sort of emotional connection. Once you have that, everything becomes a green light.
Sure! I'm going a little fast here about the all "body language and eye contact is THE shit!". I was just wondering how to set up a sexual/seduction frame with a "target" (don't like that word). I understood how body language and eye contact were crucial for that. I thought it was just about showing that you're not affraid of talking to a girl, that you're a man... but it's more than that. I should use both of these "skills" on purpose.

In general, I realized I'm too RATIONAL. I should be crazier.

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DAY 37: last game session in Paris.
Playing on the Champs-Elysées.

Another small report for today. Once again, I'm leaving soon for São Paulo so I can't afford spending a whole afternoon sarging. Yet, I had to go get my visa in Paris today, so I had the opportunity to do some game. No goal set up again, it was just about having fun. Since the consulate was near the Champs-Elysées, I went there to play.

I was really confident today... I was thinking about planes. I love taking planes, and knowing that I'm goind to a new destination makes me happy. I approached a bit more than 10 girls focusing on the moment and enjoying myself: eye contact, body language... Again, I mostly approached employees (next step in São Paulo: strangers, I should have done this a long time ago!) but this time I used several openers... the scarf one allowed me to warm up a little. Later, I opened a girl at Sephora with "Do you know where I can find make-up for man?"... She took it seriously but I laughed and told her I was joking. We started a conversation on that and I switched topic to a product I was looking for. I have to work on that kind of opener, be better at it. I've been good today at making their laugh... and most important, I enjoyed even more.

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I take the plane Wednesday evening. I'll finish The Power of Now and start to read 60 years of challenge during the flight. Since I'll spend some time at the Roma airport, maybe I'll approach some girls there.

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Hey AFC Daniel. I've been reading your posts for the past months and I gotta tell you, this is one of the best posts i've ever read. You've gone so far since the beginning. Keep it up!

The irony about the post with approaching non-employees at the mall is that, although I'm still new to PU, I was in the same exact situations since I've been in the Game until I tried the crash and burn theory today at the mall (its also in the Stylelife 30 day challenge which I'm also doing too). Before, I could approach employees fine, but struggled greatly approaching non-employees.

If you haven't done so yet, try going out with the goal of getting rejected for a while. After several times, it will begin to desensitize you from fearing rejection and caring what others think about you. For me, it made approaching non-employees a lot easier, despite the fact I got weird looks at me today.
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Hey AFC Daniel. I've been reading your posts for the past months and I gotta tell you, this is one of the best posts i've ever read. You've gone so far since the beginning. Keep it up!

The irony about the post with approaching non-employees at the mall is that, although I'm still new to PU, I was in the same exact situations since I've been in the Game until I tried the crash and burn theory today at the mall (its also in the Stylelife 30 day challenge which I'm also doing too). Before, I could approach employees fine, but struggled greatly approaching non-employees.

If you haven't done so yet, try going out with the goal of getting rejected for a while. After several times, it will begin to desensitize you from fearing rejection and caring what others think about you. For me, it made approaching non-employees a lot easier, despite the fact I got weird looks at me today.
That's my two cents...
I'm going there yes! But I got to start all over in Portuguese since I'm in Brazil now!

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Oi!

Just a quick post to say that I've arrived in Brazil. Girls are so hot here.
I don't have internet on a regular basis right now but I'll have it tomorrow. Stay tuned.

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DAY 38: first day in Brazil, first number close.
First number close in Portuguese!

Hi guys, as an exception, this field report won't be like the last ones. Since it was my first day in São Paulo, I wanted to go out as much as I could and enjoy the pool and other activities from the hotel. I did not set up any goal, I just wanted to feel the city and feed my inner game.

Old school field report.

Being in Brazil.
I love this country. São Paulo is an amazing city. There's so much energy here. HBs are everywhere... and you know what, they show skin! :) I love that.

Speaking Portuguese.
I do speak Portuguese, so I understand 90% of what is said here, but i have to confess that my Portuguese accent is hardly understood but I'll work on it. The first thing I wanted to do is to actually speak Portuguese. Back then, when I was an AFC, I would have been scared of speaking it... but that was not the case. I needed I swimsuit so I went to several store and actually ask for it. I went to Adidas, Tommy Hilfiger... and spoke to HBs, looking in their eyes. Same thing at the hotel, I did not hesitate a second to ask the receptionist. I also opened a non-employee for directions.

On my inner game.
I feel good here, in a new playground to discover. Speaking Portuguese is great. It makes me feel home. This city is full of skyscrapers. I've never told you but I love architecture, it's a real pleasure for me to discover the city. I can' wait to take some pictures of it. I've swimmed a little, enjoyed my hotel room... That's good.
Yet, my inner game has been challenged today. I came across a picture of my ex with her new boyfriend on Facebook. I'm not going to lie, I felt sad and angry on the moment. But that actually made me go out to sarge and push my limits. Once I was out, I actually calmed down a little.
> Is it my mental creating anger for me to go out and then calming me down when it felt threatened because I wanted to approach?
> Is it just that my inner game is getting better and better?

My first real number-close.
I was near Oscar Freire street, the most expensive street of South America. That where all the luxury shops are. I was confident and in a good state of mind: I wanted to do something after seeing that picture. Is that a good urge? I don't know... But I was not angry or frustrated at all on the streets. I missed a few windows of opportunity but I was focused on the moment. I went to a grocery store to buy some coke and started to come back home. I was behind a girl that seemed beautiful, she was listenning to her iPod. I catched up with her and was now in front of her. I had the Approach Excitement in me, I knew that it was a good opportunity. Yet, I did not know if she was beautiful or not, but I noticed that all the guys on the road were looking behind me. What the hell, I went for it.

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I wanted to play the "I'm French" card so I opened in English.
ME - Hi! (waiting for her to notice me and take her iPod off) Do you speak English?
HER - Yes I do.
ME - I've just came from France and I was looking for good places to hang out.
I saw a spark on her eyes. We stopped to speak about that and then she offered me to walk with her. I introduced myself We spoke about ourselves, she is student in the exact same University. She plays handball and studies French. She is easily an 8. I spoke English, Portuguese and French with her. In the end she actually spoke about seing each other at the University, I told her to give me her number so I would text her when I'll get a cellphone.

IOIs:
- she asked me to walk with her
- we shake hands (I've not noticed if she squeezed or not, I got to get the habit)
- she KINOed me back
- she actually asked for my Facebook
- she accepted to kiss to say goodbye
- she smiled a lot
- she offered me to work my Portuguese with her.

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- I'm adding her on Facebook right now. I'll use Facebook (or her number) to try to organize a date with her in the next days.
- I think I'll ask her "hey, I'm going to the park to take some pictures but don't really how to go there, could you help me? (play the photograph card) By the way you can come"
- What to expect from such a date? Kiss close? Damn I need material here too.. KINO escalation and some French I think.
- I was not SEXUAL at all but FRIENDLY (damn), I need to be on a sexual next time I see her.
- I'm getting out there tomorrow too to numb close again.

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Very nice Daniel - really good.

It actually shows you're improving a lot. Good conversation - nice summarization of IOI's. She got something for you.. now build on it. :)

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Hey Daniel nice result man!

You asked a few question on PUAChat. I'm by no means an expert of any kind. But I have the same drive and determination you do so these are just some of my ideas.

You mentioned still having a trouble introducing kino with strangers you have just met. Truth is you can do literally anything, it doesn't matter. It's all practice.

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Just as you hold out your hand to introduce yourself... 'Oh wow', (turn her hand over whilst still holding her hand)...'Nice nails...Did you get them done professionally?'

'Hi I'm Daniel... (hold out your hand) ... Oh wow, such soft hands, and here's me thinking you worked down a mine... (big grin.)

'Hi I'm Daniel... (Shake her hand... hold on for it a little longer then turn it around. Look at the lines on her palm... 'Hmmmmmm. You Know I can read palms.' Her: Why what is it??' You:'See this line here... It means your a retard for believing me.' (Then toss her hand away whilst giving her a cheeky grin.)

As she's crossing the road... Place your hand in the small of her back and guide her across the road.

Link arms as she's walking with you- 'You know I don't normally do this...but I thought I'd be cute... Just don't be getting any ideas ya know.' (Give her a sneaky smile.)

Walk her to a coffee shop. Sit down... 'Say you look the competitive type...Oh don't lie I know you are! C'mon...Thumb war... One...Two three four... I declare a thumb war. [Not sure how this would work in another language.] Then if you win get her to give you a kiss and point to your cheek. If she wins get her to give you a kiss point to your cheek hahaha!

Or you can play 'Rock, paper scissors.'

Or as you're walking... Grab her arm, 'OMG did you see that guy he almost ran over that poor girl, blah blah blah.

[As you are about to part ways]
Hey goodbye, lean in to kiss her on her cheek. 'You know... I'm French. That means I need a kiss on both cheeks. (Big smile) It's Ok... I'm greedy anyway.'


You see, there are soooo MANY ways you can run with this... It's all practise, just like opening and number closing... Practise, practise, practise. Just like Kasabi, said. How many guys out there CAN roll of five openers and number closes off the top of their heads???

YOU should be able to roll of kino moves just like that... It should be your 'bread and butter,' just like your openers.

In regards to the date thing yeah... Like I said. Don't BS her with some lame excuse,' Hey um...I need help to get directions to blah blah blah.'

She'll see through this a BS, just be upfront and confident and honest with her, like you were when you met.

'I wanna check _______ out. (Insert fun verbs here.) '

If there's anything I learned... Taking a high risk and putting yourself out there pays dividends. Tricking a girl into hanging out with you or begging always never worked.


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Hahaha if you play your cards right you probably can laid man, I suggest you use this opener "I'm look for places to hang out" every time you see someone you want to talk to. Its easy and not harmful. Work on your escalation so that they don't see you as a random stranger, I would avoid adding them in Facebook because it's kinda cheesy let her add you its an IOI and you have her number anyways. But yeah work on cocky+ funny, teasing, DHV, and you got in the bag man.

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Also you can have a photo date, take picture of things throughout the date, of you or her or whatever. Also you can make it as a competition, if you win you get a kiss and if she wins she gets a hug. Tease her pictures and also take lots of pictures of her in it and tell her how dorky she looks. Be cocky+funny and say "Hey this one is really pretty, you know what you can be a model, your hands are really pretty, hey you can be a hand model!" "But since I gave you the idea you have to give me 90% of your earnings, you can use the rest for yourself."

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Very nice Daniel - really good.

It actually shows you're improving a lot. Good conversation - nice summarization of IOI's. She got something for you.. now build on it. :)

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Yes! I changed my plan a bit. I think I'll call her today (if I finally get a phone) and tell her that "I would like to know you better" and that I was planning to go to a park to take some picture: "would you like to come?"

If I actually get to see her, I'll focus on KINO escalation and cocky & funny. I'll play with the camera of course and take some picture of her/us.

I gotta make that real.

I'm also going out today to get more #-close. I need more options.

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