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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:18 pm 
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Getting a girl to respond back to your messages on a dating site is probably the hardest thing to conquer when it comes to online sarging. Why? Because women always get the "hey what's up?", "ur hawt!", or "Hi my name is... (follow by a boring life story)" messages. However, I came up with a message that has gotten me a 100% response rate.

I'm being serious; I sent this message to about 50 girls and they always responded back to me with something. Now I know a lot of you are wondering what I sent to them. Well I don't want to give out the exact message word for word because I don't want dozens of guys potentially sending the same message as me and it blowing up back up in my face.

HOWEVER! I'll give you the formula that way you can come up with your own unique but yet equally effective opener.

Headline: have a unique headline that DOESNT start with an "H" such as "Hi" or "Hey". Their inbox is already full of the crap.

The message is broken down in 3 sentences:
1. Point out her good looks in someway.
2. Bring up the fact that she probably gets generic messages all the time from guys. (ties in with the 1st sentence b/c g'looking girls get the most messages.)
3. End it off by saying how old/boring/lame it must be to always get those messages.

So it's an opener about openers. What then happens is the girl either responds right away, or she looks at your profile to decide to respond. Great, you got her attention. However, you need a good strong profile with great pictures to convince her to respond back to you. I'll cover that in the future.

Now do I always get their facebook or numbers? No, because sometimes the girl may lack a personality and she'll give a boring response. I NEVER respond back to them, and sometimes they'll actually send another message to get a conversation going.

9/10 times, the girl will agree, laugh, and then engage you in a conversation. From there I have a quick convo, tell her I must jet but the best way to reach me is facebook. I ALWAYS get their facebook with ease, but that's because I have a good alluring conversation with them.

From there, talk on FB chat. How I get their numbers from here and on the phone with me is very easy. I mention The Cube game. They want to play, but then I recall it needs to be played with their eyes close. They get disappointed so I say give me your number, I'll call, and we'll play (as if I'm doing them a favor). By the end of the phone call she feels like she knows me forever and wants hang out ASAP.

This isn't something that I pulled out of my ass overnight. It took a lot of trail and error with both the opener and the profile itself. And like I said, a good strong profile is a must and I'll explain what I did with mine later on. I've done this opener for about a month now and have about 40 new numbers in my phone and some one texting me every minute.

Here's a few examples of the responses I get:

"lmao yes finally someone understands. honestly i made my profile a week ago and i'm already sick of this thing." - she did delete her profile, but I was able to her fb and #

"Haha doesn't get that old :P
Whatsup? I'm Jamie your new internet acquaintance ha"

"Yeah, I cannot stand poor grammar filling up my inbox all day lol.
How are you? I'm assuming your name is Zack? I think?
-Kasey"

"Ha what can I say, I think it is the blond hair that really gets them. Anyone that spells hot "hawt" needs to delete themselves from talking. It is incredible how many people have the lamest pick up lines and can't correctly spell. Ha those are my options in life I guess. I guess I fail? Ha, How are you today?"


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:42 pm 
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sounds AFC to me, would like to see more evidence!!

Im all for any technique that has a good response rate, but 100%??? im doubtful!

Please enlighten us all!


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Steve Slik wrote:
sounds AFC to me, would like to see more evidence!!

Im all for any technique that has a good response rate, but 100%??? im doubtful!

Please enlighten us all!


When you point out that she is good looking and that's the reason she's getting all the boring messages it works in your favor as oppose to being an AFC. Because by NOT sending a generic boring message you made yourself stand out more.

There's really no way I can give proof that I get 100% responses (unless someone can think of something) but what I can do is go through and get some screen caps of actual responses. In the meantime I suggest actually giving it try, because you best understand the material when you use the material.


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I'm skeptical too. I've been doing online game for over a DECADE, traded methods, tactics and techniques with professionals for years and I've NEVER heard of anyone getting 100% return on messages.

Especially with the claim that the message itself is what's getting the responses. It's not the message that gets you a response, it's your profile wording and pictures.

I can claim a 75-80% response rate as an AVERAGE over the years. There's times when it's higher (yes, 100% at peaks, but these times are few and far between) and times when it's lower, but on average, I get about 75-80% return. And I know for a fact it's not my openers that do that for me. I open with the lamest, boring shit I can think of. I do that on purpose because I know that it's my profile that sells me.

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"Have I seen you somewhere before?"

I'll do that allllll day long and turn it into number closes. Facebook closing? That's a joke.

Listen man, I'm not trying to flame you, I'm really not. If you're really onto something here that's more solid than what I do, I'm interested in learning it.

So tell me. What's up with your profile writing?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:51 pm 
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A agree with Johnny that there's no way anyone pulls responses 100% of the time. Also, I completely disagree with you on advising guys to compliment a woman's appearance. That's exactly what you DON'T want to do, at least IME. I never compliment a woman's appearance in any way until I've had sex with her at least twice.

I do agree with your method of using FB IM to communicate with women. That's very effective.

But all that is peripheral. The big thing I keep seeing guys mess up on in online game is focusing on "response percentages". "Response percentages" don't mean anything.

Here's how you should be measuring results: How many women are you putting your cock into?

If I take 2 or 3 concentrated hours of emailing chicks online, spread over a period of two or three days, I can schedule 10 first dates, and have sex with at least 2, often 3 or 4 of those 10 women (plus getting sexual without actual sex with several more). I don't even KNOW what my "response percentages" are. I don't care.


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"how many women are you putting your cock into" fkn gold.

Anyway I would tend to agree with this, I never say anything about looks, and I rarely ask anything like what their job is etc...same lame shit as everyone else. So I do agree with OP in terms of points 2 & 3 and instead of commenting on their looks, I will usually say something about their profile that I found interesting. Sounds like you just thought they were cool and you haven't been beating it to their pic for the last day or so. You can escalate later on.

This all depends alot on your personality and ability to just talk shit I guess. Quick example: sent a msg to a chick on a dating site like 3 or 4 days ago - her pic made her HB7 ish I guess / profile added another point or so for me.

She happened to be on last night when I logged into to check messages, never mentioned job/hobbies/likes anything like that didn't even have a pic of myself up. Just told a few DHV stories and some 'jokes' and she gave me her number, never asked for it directly...she was pushing for my msn, which I don't have and told her, BAM number close.

Chatted for another 10 mins or so sent her a pic, and told her I'll give her a call whenever. I'm a total fkn noob to this so if I can do it anyone can.

lol while i was typing this i got a message from another girl, her profile holds no interest for me, but i need practice so i'm just going to go for it.

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the only way mentioning looks wouldn't automatically be bad would be to openly disarm their natural assumptions.

Probably the OP succeeds from being matter of fact, using look descriptors that aren't going to be too far from their own impressions of themselves. And starting a conversation which has the implication of "i understand you" whereas every afc that goes near looks is likely to be subtlely communicating the complete opposite.

profile is probably important in this process to communicate congruency over what's been said and provide legitimate reasons for interest.


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Guys... its just an opinion opener. every girl on any site knows you think she is cute. saying it isnt earth shattering. but groveling at the ground she walks on... clearly not helping.

And at any point you can use this talk about all the lame ass messages, or shit I am being different hold on I goto get back into internet guy havnt seen light in 3 days mode, 1 sec. unfortunately without you changing around the wording on your opener and posting it nothing can be said for what or why it works/doesn't.

Same thing with the whole make up some random ass crazy story about seeing her at X place doing something crazy or embarrassing. the answer you get can instantly tell you how interested they are based on your profile/pics.


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