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jpow1981
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:57 am    Post subject: "You seem too good to be true" opener Reply with quote
"You seem too good to be true, which is a shame because I like girls who are a little bit bad."

Any thoughts?
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Skillel
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
You're challenging her to qualify herself to you before building attraction.

This should only be done after IOIs. In my opinion this is just a luck based opener, she will look at your pictures and decide whether she likes the look of you.

If she doesn't, she'll probably have a "Who does this guy think he is?" reaction.

Try opening with something amusing/interesting or an illicitation opener to find out an interesting topic you know you can keep.

Refer to the M3 model and double-check when you should be using challenge/qualification. A3 if I remember correctly. It doesn't translate perfectly to online sarging but in my opinion it still stands as a basic guideline.

Start funny, be interesting. Gain her interest and IOIs. Phase into qualification.

Once you know she's attracted and finds you interesting, build comfort through rapport, mix in humour and cocky funny to keep that attraction going.

Close by asking her out when you've built enough comfort for her to agree.

Restart from A1 when you're offline and meet.
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WillieB.Long
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Have you used it? What were the results?
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jpow1981
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I believe that Skillel is correct. In effect what I was doing was challenging them before building any attraction, when I was in fact thinking that it was a neg.

On POF I have about a 65-75% return rate (I'm not a bad looking guy and have a great profile), and I've been receiving below average returns with that line.

I have been getting good results however after exchanging one or two emails with them.
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xiagox
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
my response rate is %20 (I sent out ten messages).

not that great but all in the name of science I guess lol.
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