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| Author: | FireCrow [ Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:43 pm ] |
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has anyone tried this opener and actually had success with it? interesting idea, wondering if anyone has tried it and could relay their experience, thanks! http://www.rsdwiki.com/index.php?title ... pse_Opener |
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| Author: | phangan [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:01 am ] |
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My friend f closed with it on the 2nd try. But he's very good looking... |
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| Author: | aNewLife [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:03 am ] |
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yOUR LINK IS BROKen, Sorry Keyboard was screwed |
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| Author: | Tidy [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:04 am ] |
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Tried it twice, both times after reaching the hookpoint. Never as an opener. Worked both times. I've considered it as an opener before but never had the balls, I might try it on the first night of freshers on the 24th Sept. I'll put a report up if I actually manage to muster the guts to try it regardless of whether it works or not. In fact I plan on doing a 2 week diary on the lay report forum of my fresher's fortnight. |
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| Author: | FireCrow [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:31 am ] |
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thats awesome.. so did you open, throw neg then say it? what opener did you use? also what kind of persona should you have going as you say it, should you be smiling or holding firm? thanks and good work |
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| Author: | P-Style [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:02 am ] |
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Used it twice as an opener: the first time it hooked, second time it backfired. But I prefer other openers. Apocalyps is for lazy people. |
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| Author: | Tidy [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:29 am ] |
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Quote: thats awesome.. so did you open, throw neg then say it? what opener did you use? also what kind of persona should you have going as you say it, should you be smiling or holding firm? thanks and good work
When I said the line i'd already talked to her a fair bit and knew she was into me. I suppose it's not really shock and awe at that point.
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| Author: | Lodewijkp [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:02 pm ] |
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openers don;t mean shit .. a opener is the first 5 seconds of conversation... you can open someone up by calling her a whore.. i've done such things and dated such woman. i don't understand why you guys focus on the first 5 seconds of conversation... |
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| Author: | phangan [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:25 pm ] |
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Quote: openers don;t mean shit .. a opener is the first 5 seconds of conversation... you can open someone up by calling her a whore.. i've done such things and dated such woman.
+1i don't understand why you guys focus on the first 5 seconds of conversation... I did S&A 6 or 8 times. It never worked for me but the reactions were always incredibly unpredictable and you must try it out just for the experience. With a few sets I stayed for 15-20 minutes, only one or two blew me off. I tried it on two girls together once, that was a lot of fun. My wing was observing me and said they all looked like they were really considering it... Last night I opened a girl with "Hi... I'm shy" then I kind of fucked it up with too many boring ass questions so we "dance drifted" apart from each other. After about 10 minutes I came back to her, my plan was to tell her "I have to tell you something, I'm really not that shy... why don't you come with me to my room and I'll do you in every hole you've got" but mid way her friend garbed her away from me. It was a group of HB9/10s, surrounded by guys who looked like Russian mafia, it kind of screwed my game... |
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| Author: | Lodewijkp [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:49 pm ] |
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phangan there is a certain method i use .. it's not really a technique... i call it ; saying what's on your mind .. for example when you are asking boring questions AND you know you are doing it - just tell the girl ... something like '' hey i have tons of boring questions i need to ask you''.... ''at least you will sleep well tonight ''. stating your own problem or block and making something fun out of it.... if im blocked i say something like '' shit i don't know what to say ... your shoes , i want those '' it's fucking retarded but at least im expressing how i feel with a little playfull twist. anyway .. if i focus on the opener i suck in normal follow up conversation, unless if it's a very daring and fun opener that doubles my approach anxiety lol. IF you have a too good of a opener it will be too intimidating or too fun.. the follow up conversation will seem boring to her. Bar it down a bit. |
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| Author: | phangan [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:03 pm ] |
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for example when you are asking boring questions AND you know you are doing it - just tell the girl ... something like '' hey i have tons of boring questions i need to ask you''.... ''at least you will sleep well tonight ''
Haha, great stuff. I'm actually going more and more in this direction. I was thinking to try to open today with "Hi.... I have a running stomach.... must be something I ate" and make a face, just to see how far I can go with the crazy openers. Every day I discover that the more random the opener, the better. |
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| Author: | vicparkguy83 [ Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:24 am ] |
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I wanna know if an average looking guy can pull off S&A with a HB8 or above. The only time I hear of these uber-direct openers working is when the guy is good looking. |
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| Author: | phangan [ Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:21 am ] |
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Quote: I wanna know if an average looking guy can pull off S&A with a HB8 or above. The only time I hear of these uber-direct openers working is when the guy is good looking.
No no... use it for 7 and lower. You can try it on hotter girls but you're lowering your chances, I don't think it will work.
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| Author: | Tidy [ Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:14 am ] |
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Quote: Quote: I wanna know if an average looking guy can pull off S&A with a HB8 or above. The only time I hear of these uber-direct openers working is when the guy is good looking.
No no... use it for 7 and lower. You can try it on hotter girls but you're lowering your chances, I don't think it will work.Tidy: Hey HB9: hey Tidy: So what you doing when this place shuts? HB: Erm, no idea... Sleeping? Tidy: Sleeping with me? HB: What? Tidy: Wanna come come back with me later? HB: Er... Worst silence of my life ever... Feel like a dick... Hold eye contact like I was told... HB: How about we dance? Tidy: Sure thing (smile) So we go dance and get real close and k-close on the dancefloor. She actually asked me later on if she could come back to mine. I had to tell her I was bluffing and that I live in Luton and am visiting home. Tried to convince her we should go to hers but it didn't work out. Moral of the story. This probably works. Try it! |
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| Author: | GoingPlaces [ Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:59 am ] |
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I have never tried it but I know it would work. I use something similar in bars all the time. All I need is some kind of IOI other than eye contact from across the room. You: Are you ready yet? Her: Ready for what? You: To take me home? If she says no, You: Not yet huh? Then walk away. If she gives any IOI after that, later on walk up again. You: Are you ready now? Ironically it is my ex-wife that got me to be so direct after we split up. She told me when we first got together to just walk up and ask "want to go fuck?", direct quote. |
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