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Author:  gamechanger38 [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:05 pm ]
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Author:  TheFreshPrince [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:27 pm ]
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... I feel like I just walked out of the PUA Forum and onto the stage for the Jerry Springer show... ;)

So all of that happened before you got into pick up, and now you want to know... what? How to make her into your LTR? I guess I'm just a little fuzzy on what you're asking.
Author:  gamechanger38 [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:41 pm ]
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Author:  gamechanger38 [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:48 pm ]
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And sorry I should give you a timeline here.

Began talking in February

Dating in March- Actually fucked her in March one night when we were fooling around. Did not last long, happened and then I pulled out and stopped. We had not been talking long.

Still talked but did not begin seeing each other for about four weeks. Then we began dating and that lasted for about 2 months until the end of May when I ended it with her.

Got back together 3rd week of June and saw each other 2 weeks straight. Saw each other every day and slept with each other every day.

Trip to see other girl in another state was 1st weekend of July. She knew about it and I kept my plans because I made them when her and I were apart. She had a guy she met on cruise fly out to see her. Says she has never hooked up with him, plans were made when her and I were not talking and she and her best friend thought this guy was completely lame. She even called me that weekend on a Saturday at 2 am. I ignored her call and a text from her the next day.

Come back and tell her I want to be with her and we work things out and then I decided I wanted an LTR. Last month I have been acting AFC until I realized it this week and am regaining my inner game and working for an LTR.
Author:  TheFreshPrince [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:58 pm ]
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Seems to me like you're in an LTR already as well, you guys just haven't labeled it. I would introduce to her that you'd like to be exclusive with her. Simple as that. Don't use boyfriend/girlfriend tags. Then start seriously working on your insecurities, inner game and such. If she says she isn't with anyone else, believe her.

As far as the no condoms go, I would never have continued sex with a girl who said she didn't like to use condoms. It's just common sense these days. And after you had that pregnancy scare? I can't imagine going without a condom. That's a serious issue, and it looks like she's using that to manipulate you.
Author:  gamechanger38 [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:12 pm ]
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Author:  TheFreshPrince [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:24 pm ]
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You know, the following is my advice, so take it or leave it, but know that I speak from experience, not just some keyboard jockey position like some of the other guys on here:

I've been in a similar place as you, certainly not exactly the same, but with an almost identical girl (maybe it's the same one?! Haha. Just kidding.). Let me tell you that I understand why you're attracted to her, but it's because you're only looking at the outside (not just physically, but intelligence-wise too). Think of it as looking at the actions instead of the motivation, or the effect, without the cause. She seems very intelligent and everything, but it's only in the realm of manipulating you. She is manipulating you to stay with her, not because she cares about you, but only because she doesn't want to lose you. Let me explain. She is very insecure about herself, even if it doesn't look like it at first glance, and she will interpret you leaving her as a form of rejection, which will destroy her already fragile ego.

The girl I was with was often hot-cold. Sound familiar? Loving you one second, hating you the next? In fact, I disagree with your friend that said she had probably already taken a test, and just didn't want to take one from you. I think she probably never had an issue, and made the whole thing up. She wanted to see a reaction that you were going to love her and take care of the child, and that that would bind the two of you together permanently. I had a girl who tried to do this, and that's often the kind who doesn't want to use a condom. That and girls who want citizenship...

I can hear the frustration in your posts and I'm familiar with it. Get out. It will only get worse.

Now most girls, if not all, that I've dated are manipulative, but there's one part that's just naturally a part of being female. It's the "try to fix you" deal. Fine. Let women be women. I have no problem with that. But when they get abusive like this, I really recommend that you drop them and move on to one less trouble. No amount of sex or emotional connection, or attraction is worth what these girls can put you through.

Sorry for rambling, but I hope I got my point across.
Author:  gamechanger38 [ Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:07 am ]
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Author:  TheFreshPrince [ Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:35 am ]
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Dude, I hate to break this to you but everything you've said about this girl, including "having a crazy ex", points towards an emotionally abusive woman. They always feel like they are a victim, so they abuse to feel like they have control. Man, get out now. =(
Author:  gamechanger38 [ Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:40 pm ]
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