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| Author: | Tr@veler [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:12 pm ] |
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Hi guys, so I'm new here, and trying to just get a grip of how an interaction will work in a club or bar. Approach and open in 3 seconds - with an opener and a false time constraint and a "how do you all know each other?" IVD - "I have to go but...I just noticed..." and proceed to an IVD routine. Neg the target. Maybe give her a prop so she doesn't run away. DHV - Demonstrate Higher Value to the group - run a story - hook the group. Neg target. By now I should have social proof of the group and have hooked them. The Target should like me by now. Ask if I can speak to Target as I've been ignoring her and alienating her. "I have something cool to show you" Qualify her - make sure she knows I was fooling around and I appreciate her, but also Bait-hook-reel-release. Isolate Target - This is only if I have attraction from her, right? Build rapport, maybe even run another IVD like The Cube or an NLP sequence. Build escalation. If she wants a drink, she can buy it. If I've got 3 proper IOI's I can (as Style puts it) Phase-shift and proceed to something like smelling her hair, biting her neck, her biting back, etc. And if possible kiss close. Or else, number close. There's probably a lot more, especially with interrupts, but I just want to know if I've sort of got the basics down. I may be overanalysing, but, oh well, AFC. |
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| Author: | MynameisFisher [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:31 pm ] |
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First, welcome here, and good luck on your journey Tr@veler You know...nowadays many physicists think black holes are the real shit in the universe and they are of great importance if we want further understanding on how things work out there. So they peek them from millions of light years and try to model things with splits of information and the help of mathematics. Wouldn't it be great if we could just go there and observe them, or even better, go through one without dying? That way we would get like a hundred times more information on them in a few hours than we're getting this way in years. Now it is the same with girls. Except for most of them don't have deadly gravitional force which curves space and time. So what I'm trying to say is you can just analyze it in your mind and create theories and might even get close to the real thing if you're lucky but it's much more effective(and fun!) if you approach girls and learn it that way. When you know well enough how things work and should be managed, you can 'go through the black hole' Also, To tell you the truth I don't really use the type of negs in MM anymore at all. And I can still be successful. You can generate a lot more tension elseway, more easily, more naturally, more effectively with just simple flirting. Neither do I use FTCs, if you are interesting enough, they won't bother you staying, if you're not, a FTC won't save you. Now I'm not trying to speak against MM here because it did help me a lot in the beginning, but you must understand ,that you will get the most success, if you're not following an inner(or outer!) algorythm, but instead enjoy the moment, enjoy the girl's company, and make her enjoy your company by just being fun. If you've read 'The Game'(which I assume you did), you should see, that Style also gets to a quite similar conclusion in the end. Also you should really not bother thinking about these stuffs all the time. It's unhealthy and might not get you the results you want(Oh for someone it might, but all the things I've written so far is pure experience) So this goes for the pick-up part. But the best advice I can give you is to find a hobby. If you have an interesting hobby, that is attractive. Also, through your hobbies you will meet girls that have similar interests as you. This makes convos a lot easier to handle and you should also know that things in common is a strong attraction switch. I really hope I could help you if you've read this through and I'm going to answer your question NOW. The Mystery method is great for, as you say, 'getting the basics' because of it's detailed, in depth analysis of social situations. However you must be careful of not getting lost in these details because that will result in you NOT getting the basics(which is as it SEEMS at the moment) Conclusion: Negs, DHVs, FTCs, routines etc., by themselves won't get you laid. Experiences, attractive life style, and basic theoritical knowledge WILL. Now why are you still reading this, and not out in field in some hot chick's panties? Note: I used, and capitalized SEEMS twice because I do not know you, I do not know your pick-up skills or how many women you've slept with so far, I just took conclusions from what you've posted. |
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| Author: | Tr@veler [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:08 pm ] |
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Hi, thanks for the detailed response. I am just getting into the game and am inexperienced with girls, but I get what you're saying. I am going to use MM as a starting point, so I can at least have something to follow, but I know what you mean. I don't really have anything more to say apart from thanks a lot for your response! |
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| Author: | Mack 2.0 [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:33 pm ] |
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Quote: Except for most of them don't have deadly gravitional force which curves space and time.
just the really fat ones.
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| Author: | MynameisFisher [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:49 pm ] |
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Quote: Quote: Except for most of them don't have deadly gravitional force which curves space and time.
just the really fat ones. |
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| Author: | MynameisFisher [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:53 pm ] |
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Quote: Hi, thanks for the detailed response. I am just getting into the game and am inexperienced with girls, but I get what you're saying.
You are really welcome and MM is quite a good start, just remember not to take it as the omnipotent magical bible of pick-up. It has its own flaws and can backfire as everything else I am going to use MM as a starting point, so I can at least have something to follow, but I know what you mean. I don't really have anything more to say apart from thanks a lot for your response! |
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