So what you're saying is rather than ask her out , ask for the phone no. (sorry, stupid question maybe but as my nickname says Work In Progress)
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| Author: | WIP007 [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Seeing IOI then striking out! Advice please... |
Hey guys.. This is my first post but have seen a lot of members here helping each other so thanks to everyone here... Sorry, my first post is a question but here goes: I have often seen very clear IOI being given out to me, in a cafe or shop etc, however, when I ask the chic out, she turns me down! It's a bit weird since the chic is hittin on me first and giving me clear signals but when I ask them out, they decline.. I'm not much of a talker so usually ask her out pretty soon after we get chatting and/or I see interest... maybe that's why?? Thanks in advance for your time and inputs.... |
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| Author: | Sonid0 [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:07 pm ] |
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I know how you feel mate, i'm in the same boat right now. giving clear hints yet ignores it when you go for it. I think it has alot to do with her having the imagination of you being together and having fun, but she doesn't truely trust you yet. Most girls tend to be very careful when they first meet a guy. What i'd recommend is that you do not invite her over directly, but go for a more indirect approach, A good example wich i would say is this: Chat her up, make her ask u what ur up to or what ur doing, then text her back saying, Well i'm probably going out for a drink or hitting the town to ... If she gives you a hint such as , Oh that sounds nice, i need to go there again soon, or w/e, just ask her to join you. |
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| Author: | WIP007 [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:12 pm ] |
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Hey Sonid0, Makes sense although I have never really asked them to come over.. it's more like 'wanna go out for a drink after work' or soemthing... could perhaps be rather than asking her out maybe ask for a ph no first ? You had similar experiences? |
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| Author: | Sonid0 [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:21 pm ] |
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Quote: Hey Sonid0,
Makes sense although I have never really asked them to come over.. it's more like 'wanna go out for a drink after work' or soemthing... could perhaps be rather than asking her out maybe ask for a ph no first ? You had similar experiences? Yeh, i'm kinda experiencing the same stuff right now. Dont forget, a woman works with emotions, She can give you clear IoI's that she would wanna go out with you, but if you are very direct, she might get this strange thing in her head that it's a bit to early or that she doesn't know u that well. But if you go with a more smooth, indirect approach, she might be like, well heck, this guy seems trustworthy, sure! Direct & indirect aren't that much different, but the way you ask her out gives her a whole different view about you as a person. |
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| Author: | WIP007 [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:36 pm ] |
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Quote: Quote: Direct & indirect aren't that much different, but the way you ask her out gives her a whole different view about you as a person. |
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| Author: | Sonid0 [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:57 pm ] |
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Quote: Quote: Quote: Direct & indirect aren't that much different, but the way you ask her out gives her a whole different view about you as a person. I hope for the best. Keep me updated. |
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| Author: | skills360 [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:21 pm ] |
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iois, is only a small part you need to do the other stuff, attraction, comfort etc... And ioi does not mean much...Lets say a girl is looking at a guy(ioi), goes up to the guy and opens the guy(ioi), ask his name(ioi), those are 3 ios, but when the dude open his mouth says something stupid, or goes for her number right away, you got nothing... You need to work on attraction, comfort etc... In my opinion you are getting lazy, cause according to you, you do not talk much... The only game where you do not need to talk is in dance floor game, all of the other games you have to talk and do the work... |
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| Author: | WIP007 [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:40 pm ] |
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Quote: You need to work on attraction, comfort etc... In my opinion you are getting lazy, cause according to you, you do not talk much...
Agreed..but let's say it's a coffee shop, customers waiting in queue, place is busy etc.. bit difficult to work on comfort, attraction etc' isn't it ?
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| Author: | skills360 [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:48 pm ] |
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you get the number, and you work on those things, via phone and text game... |
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| Author: | WIP007 [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:18 pm ] |
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So what you're saying is rather than ask her out , ask for the phone no. (sorry, stupid question maybe but as my nickname says Work In Progress)
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| Author: | skills360 [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:14 pm ] |
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Okay, for women looks is not enough, you need a bit of game, they like your looks, but you need to game them... You are going from opening to close too fast, skipping the attractions(other than looks of course) and some comfort etc... So when you meet them get their number, and then do more text and phone game, and be careful in the way you ask to meet them, maybe you are making a mistake there, when you ask a girl out, make it in a way that you will be there anyways, even if she does not show. Like i will be in xyz club saturday night, you are more than welcome to come... like if she does not go you will be there anyway...But usually is you spark a girl interest enough even if you suck asking them out they will want to meet you, you got a be interesting, dhv, mysterious,different than all afcs..Disclaimer, this is not my area of expertise since when i meet a girl and get the number i have already at least made out with them...This is just my opinion, base on my wing, my wing does stuff like this... |
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