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Author:  Tyler1187 [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:11 am ]
Post subject:  Do looks matter?

Honestly i think we all go through this self esteem swings.. i do

80% most of the time im feeling like im the man on the planet

20% of the time honestly i feel ugly


do looks matter?
one girl told me im ugly (but i gamed her bad)
other girls tell me im good looking and sexy and i think i game them good

do girls really care about how you look or does it matter about how you put your game?

i have style, and keep hygiene

fellow PUA's be free to put your posts on here about this or any tips

Author:  anthonypham [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:16 am ]
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Of course looks do matter!!
It is the first what people see.

But:
- It is NOT TRUE that hansome guys can hook up with every girl they want;
- It is NOT TRUE that an ugly guy can not hook up with every girl he wants

An ugly guy will need to put more effort in his game. He will be tested more by girls.
Girls will be more non-responsive to ugly guys or put them in the friendszone. If you, ugly guy, do nothing, this will happen.

Luckily, you are taught in the PUA-skills and theories. This can help you gaming the girls you want, even you are ugly :)

Besides, girls don't have a common idea of what is goodlooking men.

Author:  Tyler1187 [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:24 am ]
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yea.. honestly i dont know if im ugly or sexy.

when i go out i have the confidence of the man of the planet.. and i get eyes on me and talking to every girl. i guess confidence and game really matter

Author:  anthonypham [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:26 am ]
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yea.. honestly i dont know if im ugly or sexy.

when i go out i have the confidence of the man of the planet.. and i get eyes on me and talking to every girl. i guess confidence and game really matter
You are a guy, so you shouldn't worry about the way you look [this is a girl thing].

You should worry about your game :) !

Author:  Apocalyptica [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:38 am ]
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girls go with emotions bro.

while looks might seem important at first, they aren't so much later on.

Author:  Tyler1187 [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:46 am ]
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girls go with emotions bro.

while looks might seem important at first, they aren't so much later on.

True im not gonna care anymore just go out with confidence.. and practice on the game

was JW if it affected it

Author:  DJ_Z [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:42 am ]
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It does matter, but not just your genetics. Looks matter because you have to look like you actually tried to shower that morning. Brush/comb your hair, iron out the wrinkles in your clothes, and throw on some deodorant. That matters

Author:  pumpington [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:51 am ]
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do looks matter, yes, yes they do,

but do looks matter to girls as much as they matter to guys?, usually, no, no they do not,

different girls are attracted to different things, and most girls mostly respond to social status, but some respond primarily to looks/height, some respond primarily to money, some respond to size of social circles you have access to, some respond to big dicks, some respond to overt direct sexuality, some respond to active disinterest, some respond to deep voices

will looks get you laid, no, they will get you attention, and less resistance, it is not in a girls nature to just throw herself at a guy, unless she had a pre-determined plan to get laid, or she is low self esteem, or abused as a kid but no matter what you will get resistance, and if your more socially dominant you will get more attention, so really with tight game, looks are fairly irrelevant,

that being said, is it likely you will be pulling 10s all night as a morbidly obese, acne scarred man with no sense of style that smells like a dumpster, no,

but if you get some nice clothes, do your hair up, take a shower, spritz some cologne on, and approach enough, have a game plan, some structure, and actually try to close

you will get laid, when it comes to getting laid, confidence, and a sense of humor are probably the two most important factors, just hang in there, be funny but don't be the entertainer, and no matter what go for the close and be persistent, do not go back on anything that would make you congruent to the pickup, always try to escalate the situation, and always try to close

Author:  vicparkguy83 [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:46 am ]
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different girls are attracted to different things, and most girls mostly respond to social status, but some respond primarily to looks/height, some respond primarily to money, some respond to size of social circles you have access to, some respond to big dicks, some respond to overt direct sexuality, some respond to active disinterest, some respond to deep voices
Some girls don't really have a type and when you look at their history of boyfriends there seems to be absolutely no pattern. But other girls definitely have a pattern.

Author:  Paul Van Dyk [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:11 am ]
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Yes.

Author:  pumpington [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:15 am ]
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Quote:
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different girls are attracted to different things, and most girls mostly respond to social status, but some respond primarily to looks/height, some respond primarily to money, some respond to size of social circles you have access to, some respond to big dicks, some respond to overt direct sexuality, some respond to active disinterest, some respond to deep voices
Some girls don't really have a type and when you look at their history of boyfriends there seems to be absolutely no pattern. But other girls definitely have a pattern.
if you don't notice a pattern, consider their life at the time, what was missing from it, and what that boyfriend at the time provided for them to fill the void, you will most likely find a pattern

Author:  Tyler1187 [ Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:51 am ]
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bump

Author:  vicparkguy83 [ Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:18 am ]
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This topic has been cover 1000 times already.

Pretty much the conclusion seems to be if you're good looking...
- Girls are more like to respond positively when opening.
- More likely to respond positively to escalation.
- You're less likely to get LMR.

Looks definitely help there's no doubt about it, but it doesn't give you an automatic pass into the pussy. An average looking PUA will pick-up more than a good looking AFC. I've known good looking guys who were pretty crap at picking up, guys who are 6'3 and built but still only fuck around 5 or 6 women a year, and I've met average looking guys that fuck more like 30-40 a year.

There's also dudes on this board that said they were some scrawny little bugger, hit the gym, got all built and shit, and only noticed a mild increase in their success with women. Then they got into game and saw a HUGE increase in the success.

Long story short, looks matter, but game is much more powerful than looks.

Author:  lolaskate [ Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:44 am ]
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If it was 2 AFCs of equal caliber. One hot, one not.

The hotter obviously has more of a chance.

Same goes to PUAs.

Author:  vicparkguy83 [ Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:48 am ]
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I'm probably a 5/10 looks wise and i used to wing a bit with a guy who was probably a 9/10. We were both AFC's but my game was a slighty better than his, and I was surprised how often I could out manouver him. Overall he probably did a bit better than me but he wasn't streets ahead.

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