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Author:  Soren K [ Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Aggressive Wing
Hit the DT area last night around 10 o'clock and immediately got into set on the street. First rejecton out of the way. I was with two wings, and the one was quickly introduced to my bold street approach (modeled after Sasha, thanks to the video posted in this forum)

We then hit a lounge bar, that had a few decent sets for us all to hit. After a couple initial approaches, my aggressive wing got into a verbal argument with a 9, and ended up calling her a cunt. (Speed wobbles early in the night) From there, the two of us hit a two set, and my aggressive wing number closed both girls. My other buddy pulled me aside with a subtle complaint that he's cockblocking us, and taking both numbers.

So, here's my question. The aggressive wing can garner attraction rather quickly, and pump it relatively quick as well, but he's not an approach guy, so he essentially builds off of our (wing and I's) foundation.

How do we (less physical game and more beta approach) work with his approach so that we can compliment his style.

My answer was to 'up our game' which is my answer for everything. But the girls all thanked me throughout the night (there was a few more instances) and generally thought of my approach as classier.

Any thoughts, or thought distortions that I may lean towards would be greatly appreciated.
Author:  skills360 [ Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:07 pm ]
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in my experiences, i talk to my wing and teach him strategy, if he keeps fucking up, i stop hanging out with him...simple..If he ask what is wrong or whatever i talk to him give him another chance, and if he does it again i am done.
Author:  vicparkguy83 [ Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:13 pm ]
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If it was me I'd be running a dibs system on sets, and telling the "aggressive wing" to respect the dibs system. Also I'd be telling him to open more sets himself. Whoever opens the set has dibs on the set and the other two have to either go open separate sets or let the opener AMOG the dibbed set.

Or just learn to out game him.
Author:  anthonypham [ Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:04 am ]
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My advice is:

Go to a club together with your friends, but game alone!!!

Open your sets by yourself, you don't need a wingman for this. A wingman can cause harm by talking bs, disturbing your frame, trying to impress the girl, etc.

When you are at club, just come back after a set to your friends to have new rounds of drink
Author:  DJ_Z [ Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:41 am ]
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A wing's number one job, in my opinion, is to keep you from wussing out. I would run game myself, my buddy just needs to keep me from making excuses. End of the day I like my friends because they're different, but it can hinder our ability to game together. So we each do our own thing and meet back up afterwards. Course, it helps living in a city where we all have access to a bus or cab.

Thing is, if this guy is your friend, the first thing you gotta do is talk to him. Friendship isn't something that can be handled by PUA concepts. You need to tell the guy that he's hijacking your sets. If you need to discuss firsthand who is gonna game who, that's fine, but when he makes his decision, that's it. If he decides halfway through he'd rather go for the girl you're gaming, too bad. If he is your friend, he will hear you out. A venue with more than a dozen women will have 3 possible sets for you guys to divide and conquer. A friend who ignores being told he's stepping outta bounds doesn't really care about friendship when it comes to getting laid. That's bad, by the way.
Author:  Soren K [ Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:20 am ]
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Awesome.

Thanks for the support, I thought that I was maybe in the wrong, but after your replies, asserting myself is definitely my first m.o.
Author:  pumpington [ Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:35 am ]
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stop winging in tandem, go in solo, both you pick targets, have your wing go into set with your target, gain attraction, pump her BT, then isolate her, accomplishment intro you, dhv you, (more or less straight brag for you), then bring your target to you, you do the same for him, when you merge sets, switch girls and go for your target, make sure you both talk about how you think it is important to find good friends, then explain, you know i have gone through alot of friends and finally i have found good people to hang with, like my friend *insert wingman name/nickname* begin dhv/accomplishment, when you merge the person whos set it is that is mergeing, in a loud clear voice basicly yell, OMG This is *wingman name/nickname* i was telling you about, you have to meet him (if multiple people in set) say EVERYONE INTRODUCE YOUR SELVES, and set is merged, if not merging sets together, then you should go in solo, while the wing waits watching, he should be reading body language of the set, his job is to
1) handle external inturrupts and isolate cockblocks,
2) when a set is dieing, enter instill energy in set,either pump your targets BT fast or directly DHV/validate to you, then exit
3)watch for if you are being ignored, enter set begin validating for you to give you some more social proof, then exit once attention is regained

your wing men when in tandem, should never cut your threads, and should never disagree with you (especially if he is taking sides with a target) or dominate you, targets should be pre-chosen, and codes can be used to show who is your target in set, such as when wing enters and you are not merging sets and he is handling an obsticle for you, introduce him to target 1st, also if he is in tandem and things are not going well, and target shows intrest in him, you can touch him on shoulder and say what a night (indicating he can attempt to close your target, hopefully after you dhv him off intro he has some attraction going, but wing should only steal if he gets the ok)
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