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Author:  AmanInFull [ Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Lost V-card, 1 girl a month, need improvement

Hey guys,

This is is my first post on this profile but I've had another one which I stopped posting on a year ago, can't even remember what the username was. Anyway here's my story

I'm 18, I'm studying law in Holland right now. Now up until a few months ago I was a virgin, I had kissed a lot of girls, hot ones as well but I just never went further because of the fact that I'm a bit shy and I lived with my parents .
Anyway, since I've lost the V-card I slept with 4 girls in 4 months, which is relatively okay because I've got a lot of catching up to do (In Holland the average age to lose the V-card is pretty low I think- 16 isn't abnormal). The girls I slept with were two 6's, one 5 and one 8. Recently I had a few parties and I had to bring two dates. I brought really hot ones I think two 8.5-9's, very cute and also intelligent girls.

But this is where I simply fell short, I wasn't good enough. When they sat next me and I had to talk to them initially I was very nervous. I simply get insecure so what I do is, I still look them in the eye long enough but I get a bit tense, I can't put a smile in my eyes if you know what I mean. Later that night we drank some alcohol, people were getting tipsy, more talkative, I lost the anxiety. But then I just didn't know how to escalate, the girls were both friendly and enthousiastic but I just couldn't see any willingness to make out or just kiss.

So I just went for it at a point, with one girl (the other one was temporarily gone), and she refused. I wanted to go for the other one at that point but I simply didn't have the courage and the confidence anymore and I didn't think she was interested enough. So my goal is now to aim for higher quality girls (7.5 and upwards), and prefereably relationships- never had one. Note that these relationships wouldn't necessarily be exclusive, I'd cheat (don't start about ethics with me please).

Some extra information about myself:
- I'm pretty goodlooking, 6 ft 3, so pretty tall (although it's not that tall in Holland...)
- I'm so-so athletic, not broad shoulders but a low fat percentage.
- I play piano and guitar and I'm intelligent, I speak French/English/dutch and a bit of German, also I'm pretty knowledgeable
- I would say I'm a tad shy (for Dutch standards, Dutch people are VERY direct and confident- at least they pretend to be)
- I've don't have a low voice, I would say a tenor, but more than that, it's pretty soft, so in a club it's had for me to speak loud and my voice doesnt' 'travel'.

I know that this isn't a place for all your answers but I would appreciate some honest, realistic advice on these issues.
I've thought of dance classes, acting lessons and sports like rowing.
Hope you guys take the time to read this and help me!

* I realise now that my grammar isn't a 100% correct and I've not been consequent about past and present times but I wrote it off the top of my head, so at least it's pure haha*

Author:  vicparkguy83 [ Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:39 am ]
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I'm Australian and 5'9. I went to Holland about 5 years ago and I dunno if it was my imagination or not but I felt pretty bloody short over there, it's like the average height of guys is 6'4 or something.

I even had one girl over there say to me "you're too short for Holland you'll never get noticed, you should try Italy or something."

Author:  AmanInFull [ Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:56 am ]
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Yeah it's crazy, I actually lived in Belgium for a while and when I entered the underground there I was easily the tallest person of 30 people. But yeah, Holland is another story, must be the milk.

Author:  saugnoob [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:57 am ]
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I'm Australian and 5'9. I went to Holland about 5 years ago and I dunno if it was my imagination or not but I felt pretty bloody short over there, it's like the average height of guys is 6'4 or something.

I even had one girl over there say to me "you're too short for Holland you'll never get noticed, you should try Italy or something."
I am 6 ft tall, i was in amsterdam and i didnt feel shorter then the others, well then i 15 so prolly like 5 10'. My father also didnt feel like they are THAT tall even though he is 5 7'. We were only there for a few hours in the city, on the way to Canada.

Author:  vicparkguy83 [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:19 am ]
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I am 6 ft tall, i was in amsterdam and i didnt feel shorter then the others, well then i 15 so prolly like 5 10'. My father also didnt feel like they are THAT tall even though he is 5 7'. We were only there for a few hours in the city, on the way to Canada.
Like I said maybe it was my imagination. But I'm not the only one who has said that dutch guys are taller than other countries. I don't remember meeting that many tall guys in France but.

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