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Author:  TripleOptics [ Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:50 am ]
Post subject:  Advice on how to proceed or if I should even proceed.
Hey everyone,

I'm new to these forums and new to the PUA techniques in general. This is my second post from my first on the introduction boards.

I was hoping someone could give me advice on what to do next if I should even pursue and any advice on my technique and what I should have done differently(i'm pretty sure I messed up quite a bit...still a newb) Sorry if this comes off as long winded but I think the details may be important.

Anyways let me start out with a little background on this girl. I first met this girl, let's call her Stacy, at a club on my friends birthday. She was sitting next to another female friend of mine on a couch. I walked over and tapped Stacy on her arm and asked her to move over. It was a bit cramped so there was quite a bit of touching which she did not back off to. First thing I did was I turned and began talking to my friend on the couch. I notice Stacy began shifting a bit and started leaning to to try and listen to our convo. After a bit I turned to her and began small talk with her not really with the intention of hitting on her. I excuse myself and notice catching her eyes a few times. At the end of the night she gives me a hug and says it was nice meeting me. I didn't think much of it as I wasn't at this point trying to hit on her my focus being on other women. [Not too much interaction in our first meeting]

A couple days pass and I begin to think about the events and decide what the hell I should try to meet her but I never got her number. I talk to another buddy of mine and he knows her and sets up a casual happy our meeting with the 3 of us but Stacy invites my other female friend from the club. I get there and first thing my female friend does is tell me to sit next to her...I was kind of caught off guard as I was planning on sittng next to Stacy. Long story short not much amounted except for eye contact a few times. I attempted to find ways to get some seats closer without making it too obvious but no avail...my female friend was CB'ing me because I'm pretty sure she has a thing for me.[failed attempt on my part]

I gave up at this point but a few weeks later she is at another event with us. It has been 3 weeks and I decided I was done with her, but then she comes over to me and gives me a big hug saying as a greeting and walks off. I didn't think much of it as she was greeting everyone with hugs. I notice another cute girl at the event and decide I would talk to her. We're hitting it off and there's a lot of kino going on. Next thing I know Stacy comes and joins our little group and from the corner of my eye I notice her looking. I thought I was done with her but now it's on(thinking back I should have gotten the cute girls number too but I was focused on Stacy). I continue flirting with the new girl and Stacy comes by to get her drink from near me and says " you didn't ruffie my drink did you". I thought that was a weird joke so I said sarcastically "yea I did actually" then kind of looked at her strangely and said "you're weird...but I guess it's kind of cute". She walks away from me a bit embarrassed but lingers nearby. I begin talking to another buddy who is around and she turns to me and thinks i'm talking to her. "sorry I wasn't talking to you." She ends up talking to some other friends nearby. I walk by but she is blocking the path, I decide to try a bit of Kino and lightly grab her hips and move her aside saying "excuse me". As i'm walking back she sees me and moves slightly but not much so i move her aside with the small of her back.

At the end of the night Stacy comes by and says "hey i gotta go" and gives me a hug. I hug her back and say "that's a shame, we should hang out sometime" she says "sure" but lingers a bit awkwardly before turning away from me. I then say "why don't you give me your number and I'll text you mine"(I was hoping she would initiate it) She complies and i send her a text right then and there telling her it's me in front of her.

I was a bit bummed thinking that I messed up by asking her for the number at the end. About 30 mins later on text:

Stacy: "Hi [TripleOptics]!!!"

and follows it up with asking for my full name at about 11:30 pm. I reply back to her 15 mins later with my name and a smiley face at 11:45pm.

About 2 days later I decide to casually text her:

Me: "Hey! What're you up to?"

She doesn't respond for a full day and says

Stacy: "Hey, sorry I didn't get back to you sooner! Hope you have a good weekend."

Not really giving me much to work with, I reply back about 7 hours later partly because I was busy and partly because I didn't want to look too needy.

Me: "No worries. Thanks, I plan on it. "

End of story for now. Sorry if this was a bit long winded. How should I proceed from here to to close the deal on a 1 on 1 meeting? I feel like I should shoot another feeler text to see how she responds and possibly get a little more banter going back and forth. Or am I reading into this too much and maybe she's not interested? The texting a day later had me a bit worried. I didn't expect a response right away but a full day seems a bit long for a simple "what's up" text

Thanks in advance for any advice or comments!
Author:  Don Draper [ Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:34 am ]
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There is a fine line between 'negging' a woman and downright ignoring her.

You did the latter, she came up to you over and over and over and all you did was either pass a sarcastic remark or just make her feel awkward. Well done, you basically made her feel like an idiot. Which implies stupidity on your part.

Of course, she will take her time to reply to you, she just got put down by you intentionally , unintentionally, don't care.

Also, she saw you having a blast with the cute girl, so in her mind, you aren't attracted 'enough' to her.

It's an uphill struggle. Focus on her for a few days. Make her feel she's worth something to you (or act like she is). Make her believe that enough and you'll be pushing covers by the end of the night.
Author:  dan deuce [ Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:55 am ]
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Yep have to agree with Don Draper here.

The girl was telegraphing interest to you and what did you do about it?? You ignored her (slaps forehead).

Your only saving grace is that you have her number. You do need to get her out on a 1 on 1 situation. Something fun and lighthearted. DO NOT TAKE HER TO A MEAL OR GO TO THE CINEMA. Thats fucking PUA suicide.

So first you need to reinitiate her interest via txt. Say something along the lines of 'Hey! Do you have a twin??'. Sounds ridiculous but it works and it revives old numbers and gets their interest. Send a few texts back and forth having fun. THEN PHONE HER. Fluff about shit, tease her have fun, then ask her out directly describing exactly what a crazy adventure you guys will have.

Then just escalate when you have her on the date, and keep bouncing her between venues.
Author:  dan deuce [ Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:20 pm ]
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Just to confirm on one of my points above. When you 'ask' her on the 1on1. You should actually be TELLING HER that you guys are going to go and do something together. NEVER ASK. Always presume its on.
Author:  TripleOptics [ Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:01 pm ]
Post subject: 
Thanks for the responses guys. They make sense.

In hindsight I see what you guys are talking about. I'm still new to picking up on these hints (even as blatant as they may seem to everyone else :oops:)as i'm a newbie to this dance. IT DOES now feel like I ignored her too much.

Hopefully I can salvage the mess. I'll post some updates on how things go.

Thanks again for the advice!
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