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| Author: | tedwood [ Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Going On Holiday Want To Get Laid But HATE NightGame! Tips? |
By nature I'm a daygamer. I absolutely love it! There is nothing more pleasurable than stopping an attractive girl during the day, having a conversation and then getting her number. However on the dark side of it, when I go out to bars and clubs I literally cave in and never approach because I always feel girls will see me as lower value because I'm out drinking. When in fact if it was the day she wouldn't be able to say that and she'd admire my confidence. The fact is guys i'm going on a lads holiday in the next few days. I really dislike club game and only approach girls when they're on their own and ultimately I get blown out. I don't understand it because If i approached her during the day she would comment on my confidence or something but at night I get blown out!? What the heck! The friend I'm going with is probably also a borderline alcoholic who will without a doubt encourage me to drink. Anyway I want to know if you have any good tips for me because I've literally done around 4 night game approaches and they were all on lone girls and they sucked. Here are a few things I can't do/not very good at -
It's last minute but every little helps! |
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| Author: | Bodega [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:13 am ] |
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In many ways tedwood I seem to be quite similar to you. I find nightgame frustrating because so many pricks are hitting on girls with their AFC ways, and with the music so loud, I find it hard to distinguish myself apart from the drunk idiots. Anyway, i'm interested as to what people think (hence the bump) as i'm going on a lads holiday within a month also, and nightgame isn't my forté either. However, due to the fact you're in a foreign country, with people who you more than likely will never see again, I don't think there is a better night to practise direct night-game. I for one will be opening anything I can! |
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| Author: | Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:10 pm ] |
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If you want to give off confidence in nightgame, then go DIRECT. Walk up to her, maintaining eye contact the whole way (unless she is facing the other way, in which case rest your wrist on her shoulder and then turn her around to face you, whilst smiling / smirking, and then maintaining eye contact) It's usually relatively loud in most clubs, so the best way to deliver your opener, and continue the conversation, is to move to her left ear as though to whisper, but talk normally or project as much as necessary so that you can be heard clearly over the music. "Hi, don't take this the wrong way, but you look fucking sexy and I want to get to know you. What's your name?" That's all you really need to say. If she hears you correctly and stays there, accepts the compliment with a smile, giggles or blushes, or anything other than moving away from you / turning her back, then she probably likes you and that is a green light to begin immediately escalating. Whilst you're whispering in her ear, it's completely natural to touch the small of her back with your hand. You can keep your hand there as the conversation continues, moving closer in so that your back is arched - with your crotch close to hers, but with your head further back to maintain a comfortable distance, maintaining eye contact, and switching between left and right ears. The left ear is for emotional content, such as your direct opener, dirty talk, something funny, etc. The right ear is for normal, logical stuff, fluff talk, where she's from, what her logistics are for the night, etc. By dynamically switching between ears, you pass past her face, which you can "accidentally" brush with your face, maintain eye contact and create multiple almost-kiss moments. Once you have opened, she remains there and is interested, have exchanged a few things, maybe made her laugh, giggle or blush once, figured out what the friends / logistics situation is, try and move her as soon as possible to somewhere where you can be together, like a quieter area to sit down in, or an outside smoking area. Form an O with your middle finger and thumb, and place that around her wrist, so you're not grabbing her, and lead her, without looking back, after you've explained you want to go somewhere quieter. From here, you're basically in the same place as midgame in daygame - you have her name and some basic stuff, and you can now have a normal conversation. Conversations in clubs tend to at least start higher energy than on the street, but not necessarily - as long as you know how to connect with someone, you can do it however you feel works with your personality. The important thing is to be having fun with her, and continuing the escalation process. Sitting down with legs touching, arm around her, caressing her hand, etc should all happen as quick as possible - you can get to this stage within 5-10 minutes, as long as you take every act of her compliance as a green light to progress a step further. The key to pulling an SNL, apart from handling logistics, which can be a totally unlucky game killer if you don't figure them out early, is leveraging her attraction to get her to qualify about specific traits - importantly (1) free of inhibitions / social pressure (2) spontaneous (3) adventurous (4) sexual. The quicker you set a dominant frame and get her to show you these qualities, through storytelling, asking questions, and role-play, the easier it will be to create that vibe that you 2 are together, having your own crazy adventures, regardless of what others think, and that'll make it much simpler to extract and close that night. |
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| Author: | tedwood [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:18 pm ] |
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Thanks Ryan, you were just the guy I needed to analyse this post! I now at least have a decent outline of what I should be doing. The problem with me is that I thought too much when I was out, and thus never approached. 1- In general where in the club are the best girls to approach, and are they usually in groups? And finally after I've approached, attracted and qualified her on the points you have mentioned (which I agree are all important) and she's horny ... 2- What's the best thing to say to get her back to my flat? |
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| Author: | Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:23 pm ] |
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Quote: Thanks Ryan, you were just the guy I needed to analyse this post!
1. The place to approach is where the girl(s) you find attractive are. Approach them, regardless of where they are or what they're doing, as soon as you see them - on the dancefloor, standing with friends, walking around, etc. The only two times where it's worth waiting is if she's in the middle of ordering or paying for drinks, or she's on her way TO the bathroom - because you won't be able to hold and maintain her full attention after you open.I now at least have a decent outline of what I should be doing. The problem with me is that I thought too much when I was out, and thus never approached. 1- In general where in the club are the best girls to approach, and are they usually in groups? And finally after I've approached, attracted and qualified her on the points you have mentioned (which I agree are all important) and she's horny ... 2- What's the best thing to say to get her back to my flat? 2. Suggest anything at all that isn't sex - let's grab a drink, listen to that CD I was talking about, get a bite to eat, play scrabble, etc. |
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| Author: | baracuda [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:48 pm ] |
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Sorry to hijack the thread but a question to ryan. In nightgame where you say suggest anything other than sex. could i say do you want to see my dog ? shes got a quality personality on her. An how would i bring this into a conversation do i just randomly say it or start talking about pets. Im guessing the second option is better but id prefere the first an just say it randomley cheers. |
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