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Author:  mouse_23 [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:09 am ]
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Hi, first of all i would like to say that I'm new to all this, and if my question is in wrong section i apologize,

I have a current situation with a girl on college that i like , we have 2 classes together....long story short...we made eye contact few times( 2-3)but i dont know how to judge was it "eye contact"or not , had a quick conversation regarding some college stuff in a group of people, where she tried to catch my attention, or so i persume,because when i was talking to other people she would cut in and spoke to me...last sutarday i ran into her in a store, time between a classes, i bought some cookies and was standing on cash register,havent noticed her so she said hi so i said hi...i walked besides her and offer her cookie, she didnt wanted at first then i said :"why not your in a great shape so you dont have to worry", mad her laugh there, she asked me am i going back to class, but i was leaving, had to go on some trip so i said "no i m going on trip" so we split...maybe some 30 min later , she texted me saying"hey..i took a cookie but havent whished you good luck on trip, so i m doing it know"...i answered 10 hours later:) "hope cookie was sweet enough, and if you didnt ran of maybe you'd have wished me good luck",she didnt respond anything...what to do, ill see her this saturday and sunday, it been a week, what to say, how to act, give me me some relevant pointers, was my text too much, constructive critics very welcome...just to note that i didnt gave her number, besides only like 3 people on class we take have it. Maybe she was just polite, and i misread the signals

shes very positive person, laughs a lot, very open and communicitative...just to know a bit about her


English is not my native, apologies for any grammar mistakes,

Appriciate Your help guys:)
Author:  kastle [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:48 am ]
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first off she says hi to you first.
she got your number but not from you!
she texted you unexpectedly.
the text was all positive.

i'll say she's a cool, straight forward girl. She might be into you or she might be friendly with everyone. in my experience im gonna say there's a possibility that she's into you. OR is open to being into you.

what i'm getting at is that there is a chance!! There's been a Chance since the first time she smiled at you..

you, my friend, should play it cool. if she's the one engaging you then let her. all u should do is flow with her. try to read her signals. the best way would probably be through eye contact.

i would suggest you and her go on a "Mini-date" to the store that you saw her at(light emphasis on the word date.. make it more of an 'im gonna get something from the store after class, you should come with me. it'll be an adventure').. while at the store you should be a little silly and playful with her.

for personal conversation, try a little cold reading, "hey you know what.. you seem like a cool, straight forward girl. have you always been like this?"
Author:  mouse_23 [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:03 pm ]
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thx for the advice, ill play it the way you said, and let things go their way naturally...
Author:  Stetson [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:16 pm ]
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eye contact few times..
she would cut in and spoke to me..
standing on cash register,havent noticed her so she said hi
mad her laugh there
maybe some 30 min later , she texted me
Oh yah, shes clearly interested. Only a few but's
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...i answered 10 hours later
That was completely unnecessary.
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hope cookie was sweet enough, and if you didnt ran of maybe you'd have wished me good luck
That combined with the 10 hour wait... Is too hard of a pull(talking about push&pull, search it up) which means she will pull back(didn't answer to your text).

Since that was a week ago, and you have had no contact with her I presume, she has judged that you aren't interested in her.

She might act cold towards you the next time you meet, but just don't sweat about it. Be yourself, tell a funny "you will never believe what happened"-story from your trip etc. you guys will hit it just fine!



And an advice for you about all of the 'canned' stuff that you're going to learn here. Try to get the idea of WHY they work, instead of mostly using and sticking onto them.
Author:  anthonypham [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:40 pm ]
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So far so good!

It is clear she has noticed you :) and everytime you saw her you handled well. Not needy, pretty self-confident.

If you continue this way, she will think you are a nice person.

If you escalate, two things can happen:
1. She digs that, and finds you more attractive, because you are self-confident enough to bring this to another level;

2. She doesn't like you that way. She thought you were nice, but no more than that. She will take more distance from you.

In the first instance, the chances are 50%/50%. Are you willing to take the risk?
If you win, you will win yourself a hottie :) If you love, your selfconfidence will be hurt.

But with the right game you can change the odds :) Look at this forum for the game tactics!
Author:  LD [ Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:02 am ]
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you, my friend, should play it cool. if she's the one engaging you then let her. all u should do is flow with her. try to read her signals. the best way would probably be through eye contact.
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for personal conversation, try a little cold reading, "hey you know what.. you seem like a cool, straight forward girl. have you always been like this?"
Hi mouse, hi everybody else.

I got a couple of remarks.

First: To kastle: My man, i am sorry, i am not playing fair, as i only quoted the parts i disagree with. I strongly doubt the effectiveness of the advice i quoted here.

If you mean, by playing it cool, be emotionally unaffected by the result, then i agree.

To mouse: so dont turn cold on her, dont be the unaffected cool frog, dont 'play' the hard-to-get-type here. this is kind of a paradox, as you should stay emotionally unaffected by the result. By that i mean: do everything in your might to get what you want, but accept the possibility of a loss like a man. if you cant get her, dont avenge any awkward feelings by acting like an asshole or something. You know what i mean.

Still to mouse: What is it you want with this girl? Figure that out for yourself and go for it. Dont be needy, you will be perfectly happy if you dont get it (meaning you are emotionally unaffected), but go for what you want. Be more direct.

To Kastle: you tell this man to keep reading her signals, i strongly disagree. He needs to get out of his head, stop lingering on thoughts like: is this behaviour positive or negative? Does she like me? Would she still like me if i do this? Trying to read signals is going to drive him mad.

To mouse: Dont try to analyse behaviour to find positive signals, provoke behaviour that does not need to be analysed!. By being a bit more direct. You wanna go out with this girl? Tell her. Say: hey, i like you, lets go out so i can get to know u better. This is provoke behaviour from her that is not mind breaking: you either get a yes, which is obviously good, or you get a no, which is not so good. Thing to remember here: GET OUT OF YOUR HEAD. Stop thinking about what she is thinking of you. Grab your nuts (not literally ofc ), be a man and go for what you want. provoke behaviour!!

At mouse still: your text, the 10 hour delay, indeed, not really necessary. If you truly didnt have time to respond, owkeej, if you intended to do it... hmmm, not really necessary.

Now, back at Kastle: I do like the 'mini-date' to the store. That is actually a cool thing i think.

Another point i dont agree with: the cold reading. Dont do cold reading if you truly have a chance to get to know her. Instead of guessing who she really is, ask her who she is. What does she like in life? Why? What is she passionate about? Why? Get to know her by being direct, not by attempting to be interesting. Let her be the interesting person.

So, in short: dont play it all to cool and seem uninterested when actually you are interested. Be more direct with what it is you want or you will lose this one. Provoke behaviour from her in order to truly know where you are with her. Dont lose time trying to figure out what she is thinking.

Cheers!
Author:  mouse_23 [ Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:06 am ]
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LD responded:

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At mouse still: your text, the 10 hour delay, indeed, not really necessary. If you truly didnt have time to respond, owkeej, if you intended to do it... hmmm, not really necessary

i was in a hurry and didn't seen it on time, maybe some 3 hours later, other seven i was doing something,and thinking about what to text back...do i need to bring this up into conversation with her, like: "oh i didn't seen it till the time i responded and so on",, or go like: i saw it a bit later, but i was in middle of something"
Author:  Don Draper [ Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:32 am ]
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No.

Whatever you do, don't start getting mushy on her. You're busy, she needs to realize that you have other things which demand your time.

Also, ''hope the cookie was sweet enough'', what was that? Don't say that again.
Author:  LD [ Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:30 am ]
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LD responded:

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At mouse still: your text, the 10 hour delay, indeed, not really necessary. If you truly didnt have time to respond, owkeej, if you intended to do it... hmmm, not really necessary

i was in a hurry and didn't seen it on time, maybe some 3 hours later, other seven i was doing something,and thinking about what to text back...do i need to bring this up into conversation with her, like: "oh i didn't seen it till the time i responded and so on",, or go like: i saw it a bit later, but i was in middle of something"
Hi mate.

In short: no need to bring this up in the conversation If she brings it up, tell her you are a busy man.

so relax on that subject :).
Author:  mouse_23 [ Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:49 pm ]
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i saw her today for like 10 sec because i had presentation, so nothing happened guys, maybe next week...but can you sugest certain game stuff, i should read...and is one more week too much, i mean will connection be gone by then if there was one???

also, she told me that she will send some exam stuff to me that i need, should i text her about that, or skip it...i mean i dont want her too think that im texting her just because of her, i have other ways i can get that material but if texting her about that could help, why not..

i appriciate all your help


funny thing about me to know...i was in relationship for almost 3 years with a hb9, but after i broke up i just kinda lost part of my personality, i wasnt heartbroken if you tought about that, i dont know , maybe because i wasnt too much around girls in that 3 years so some things i had faded away...



please keep giving advices, also about forum sections i should rea ....

LD thx man...your stuff make sense to me,
Author:  mouse_23 [ Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:02 pm ]
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TheDonDraper
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Also, ''hope the cookie was sweet enough'', what was that? Don't say that again.
i tought of that exactly as you said, i was like why the fxxx i wrote that:) but too late

when i wrote it i thought it would be some playful metaphore cookie=me
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