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Author:  twisted pigeon [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Do women find intelligence attractive ?
I would like to hear your thoughts.
Author:  Mr_Amazing [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:41 pm ]
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In general, I would say women are not attracted to intellegence. I think they respond more to wit, which in my opinion, has more to do with charisma than knowing facts. However, intellegence can be attractive in situations where it is inconsistant with the woman`s perception of you.
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:01 pm ]
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no woman don't give a shit when it comes to intelligence .... all my teachers - male and female told me im a intelligent person.

woman don't give a shit ... woman only need you to have emotional intelligence... i got that handled... lucky me!

just make emotional intelligence test .. alot of these are free online test ... if you suck at the test you probably suck with woman as well.
Author:  Mack 2.0 [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:19 pm ]
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i agree with lode.

as usual.

intelligence is usually a hindrance at every turn.

for the most part (book smarts), i'm a fairly (to highly) intelligent person.

i won't post my iq, lol, cuz that just makes people look like tools. needless to say, it's fairly high.

this never gained me any pussy. if anything, it hurt me.

there are many different types of intelligence:

- book smarts
- physical intelligence
- emotional intelligence
- people (communication) intelligence
- etc

being classically smart can be a good thing, as long as you know how to handle it. you never want to "compete" with a woman for who is more intelligent, this only breeds resentment.
Author:  DJ_Z [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:00 am ]
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Intelligence is a hindrance if you use it to overthink basic decisions, or you belittle other people for it. But then again, the intelligence really isn't the problem there. If you are just trying to get laid, it doesn't mean much. but if you want a long term relationship, then yes I think you need intelligence.
Author:  jurupa [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:48 am ]
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Girls do dig intelligence as much as other think, how you display and use it is another thing.
Author:  Chicoman69 [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:32 am ]
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I think it depends on WHERE your intellect lies. If you are a great chess player, for example, you may have a nice IQ but you probably suck with women. You could be an ace with sports like football for example and know how to intuitively predict what your opponent is going to do. Being sporty and having knowledge in nutrition, exercise, and sports medicine will probably get you more girls than being a chess nerd and a math major.

Emotional Intelligence is a fairly new field and I find it quite useful. I would take a few personality tests on this to know where your strengths/weaknesses lie. Have fun...
Author:  0uch [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:36 pm ]
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Yes they do dig intelligent.

But remember, women respond more through emotions then logic.
Author:  kastle [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:52 pm ]
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hmm.. i think that intelligence is an attribute that a woman wants in a man..

i think that the way intelligence is "PRESENTED" determines whether she's into it or not.

if a girl is over at your house and you have your Masters Degree on the wall, and your chess trophy on the shelf and you "TAKE HER TO IT" or "MAKE HER NOTICE IT by you pointing it out to her".. then i dont think she'd be into it because it will come off as you BRAGGING OR SHOWING OFF..

Now, if she's at your house and you make NO metion of your intellectual achievements and she notices it ON HER OWN, then she'll find it attractive.

my 2 cents
Author:  phangan [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:02 pm ]
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Guys I tend to disagree with most of whats here. Girls love smart guys...

Intelligent girls will appreciate it for obvious reasons. Less intelligent girls will appreciate it because smarts will usually translate into higher income.

I would say the rule is to always show that you are SLIGHTLY more intelligent than the chick. Not much more intelligent because it will scare her off.

However, and this is the KEY -

If you meet a 22 years old girl in a club or bar, and she is there just trying to have fun or find someone to fuck – she is going to find your intelligence a turnOFF.

The same girl the next day in her workplace, flirting with you around the copy machine and screening you for “dating material / provider” - will find your intelligence a turnON.

A 28 years old JAP you date in NYC looking for a serious relationship - will find your intelligence a turnON.

Same 28 years old JAP on a vacation in Cancun will find your intelligence a turnOFF.

You have to be congruent to the frame you set. So if you're trying to PU a chick for a SNL being C&F, prizing yourself, pushing and pulling her, and then you start talking about how black holes are created and why Italian Neorealism is your favorite and why Antonioni is a genius, you will throw her out of state – turnOFF.

If you hit THE SAME GIRL with lower energy for a # close and a day 2 – it will be a turnON unless you're like a total dork. CALIBRATION. Always stick to the “slightly higher” rule – slightly smarter, slightly more energy...

Last night a 2 hour set with a 2set with one horny girl who just wanted to fuck went nowhere largely because we were having an intelligent conversation - they were a law student and business major who were both as smart as hell. It was the most interesting conversation I had in a month and also the least sexual one even that the topic of sex came up time and time again, but it was discussed on a philosophical / intelligent way rather than teasing / we want to fuck each other way.

Here again comes the importance of having a lot of CANNED material. If you have 10 hours of stuff you can calibrate which material would match the girls level and stick to it. A too intelligent thread comes up? CUT IT and stack forward.... sideways.... backward.

I love these questions they make me think about shit I wouldn't think about otherwise.
Author:  twisted pigeon [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:21 pm ]
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Thanks guys, some very interesting thoughts.

This is probably going into too much depth and a little off original topic, but I recently become more aware of the different states of mind I'm often in. When I've been thinking about stuff in my head - this is not a good state in which to approach a girl. When 'in the moment' (being present) this is when things seem to sometimes work out ok, and I can start to enjoy myself.

As I run my own business and on my own most of the day, and I'm figuring things out (not being present) as much as about 90% of the day I reckon, getting into the right sort of state of mind for sarging is somethimes pretty tricky for me.

I'm not massively intelligent myself, but maybe I've seen intelligent guys having problems with women because they seem to have the same types of jobs as me, and therefor the same problem with getting into the right frame of mind.

Do you guys have the same problem, or do you find getting into the right mood/state pretty easy ?
Author:  Little Panda [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:58 pm ]
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Hm I find it interesting so many people do not think this at all.

My cousin is VERY intelligent, and I've seen him in action with the ladies too. Nobody can out-amog him, nobody can win a discussion versus him and nobody can talk him down because his level of knowledge and wittiness is just out the reality of this world!

And when women witness him doing that, he gets approached all the time. And he's not even attractive (no disrespect to him).

When you have a regular conversation with him, you get absolutely amazed with the things he will put out there. You stand there with your mouth wide open, wondering how he managed to brain-fuck you like that.

Believe me, the ladies love it if you know how to use it to your advantage.

Then of course we got the 'regular' intelligent twats that are simply not gaining anything from being extremely intelligent because they can't apply it to pick-up whatsoever.

The fact that they can't get the ladies has absolutely nothing to do with the intelligence and it would be ignorant to BLAME the intelligence and/or say 'it's not to your advantage' when it is completely irrelevant to the smart-asses (see what I did there?) that can't get laid, since they primarily need to work on a bunch of other areas in their life before even starting to use ^that as an argument.

But what do I know, I'm just an averagely intelligent guy. Just telling you what I've seen with my own two eyes.
Author:  Mack 2.0 [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:01 pm ]
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kastle,

i've got a masters degree IN chess!
Author:  kastle [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:02 pm ]
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lol... at mack..

play on playa!
Author:  niftypickle [ Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:44 am ]
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It takes a fairly smart guy to come to the ultimate conclusion that women are usually more emotionally intelligent than logically intelligent. Let's just call it what it is here. It takes a fair bit of self-awareness for a guy to want to improve his chances with women by understanding the often illogical natures of women and being able to satisfy their emotional needs by being a challenge.

Let's put this in context. Stephen Hawking, yes, Stephen muthah f***ing Hawking, got his nurse, the lady who cleaned up his s*** on a day to day basis, who was also married to David Mason the designer of his first speaking device, to cheat on David, marry him, and have his kids. Tell me that isn't some masterful PU right there.

Here's a good Hawking quote: "People who boast about their I.Q. are losers."

That's just the thing, I wish I'd never taken an IQ test for the first time last year, changed my life forever, and not in a good way. I used to be more modest about it (actually despite all that I know I've had a life of people telling me I'm a moron because I'm different than the norm, so... it was kind of a shock to see what my IQ score was) and I'm trying to get back to that in life despite how crazy and illogical people around me often act. It takes a smart guy to be intelligent but an even smarter guy to be able to translate that intelligence into something that doesn't come across as bragging, attention seeking, and other things that give off the perception of low value. You gotta keep that intrigue high, letting a woman figure you out in little pieces like a puzzle.

(That all sounds good on paper, I know it, but in practice I struggle with it.)
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