Thank God I was born EXTREMELY GOOD-LOOKING!!!
(5'3 and overweight)
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| Author: | scotty822 [ Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | do looks affect the rules of the game? |
Not sure how to say this without coming off as arrogant, but does being a very good looking guy change the rules of the game? In other words, would I usually spend less time in the attraction phase than most people or be able to go straight into the comfort phase? On a side note, is it a MUST to develop kino before you enter the comfort stage?? |
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| Author: | TheFreshPrince [ Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:37 am ] |
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If you enter the comfort stage without showing interest (most easily, and best accomplished with kino), then you will run straight into the friend zone. Women are less visually stimulated than men, and don't think of sex, usually, by simply seeing a guy, like we do. They need to be worked up into it verbally and mentally. And same thing. I never rush into the comfort stage, because I don't want to get the friend zone. In fact, attraction, I would argue, is the most important thing, more important than comfort. If you only had one, it should be attraction, because after enough attraction, a woman has already fantasized about you, and comfort will be implicitly added in her mind. |
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| Author: | lolaskate [ Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:44 am ] |
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Good looks > bad looks Kino from the start. Demonstrates confidence. |
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| Author: | Don Draper [ Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:55 am ] |
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"The basic premise of the article was that people who were judged by their peers to be physically attractive had more success in almost all areas of life. They tended to be wealthier, happier, have more friends, and enjoy a better sex life." - Mark Belmont, The Handsome Factor It's just a little easier for you, if you're good looking or are considered to be. |
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| Author: | jurupa [ Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:58 am ] |
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Look do help, but they don't exactly change the game. They can make it easier if you are good looking but you still need game to get the girl. |
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| Author: | pumpington [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:26 am ] |
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of coarse looks are a factor to pickup, girls give you more attention, put up with more, and basicly will just throw ioi's at you when your good looking for no reason, they laugh at stuff you say that isn't funny all the time, they give up their phone numbers when you basicly did nothing of importance to get them, but game will improve your pulls/confidence, an average looking guy who is a well practised seducer who is extremely socially calibrated with a great style and tight escalations/tention building, will more then likely out seduce an extremely good looking guy with no skill, if i put my money on who would pull it would be the average guy with skill, think of it like a MMA fighter, some guys got mad skills and some guys just have natural athleticism think Royce Gracie vs Kimo, Royce(average looks high skill) 180lbs, Kimo(great looks low skill) 280lbs, Royce beat Kimo but had a hell of a time because Kimo has such a natural advantage due to his size and athleticism, it would be the same if say Brad Pitt was socially retarded and you went into a set tandum with him as your wing, guarentee the girls would be on him like flies on shit, but if you were extremely socially calibrated and stole all the attention by being cool were as he sort of had nothing to say and kept not engageing in convo you would be way more likely to pull, i hope that makes sense |
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| Author: | Wazzer [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:35 am ] |
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Thank God I was born EXTREMELY GOOD-LOOKING!!! (5'3 and overweight) |
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| Author: | phangan [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:02 am ] |
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Yes it does, it can have a confusing effect. I posted about it here: too-early-rapport-amp-being-good-looking-vt94864.html |
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| Author: | Hakuna [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:51 pm ] |
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Yes but for a different reason that most guys think. It's not that physically good looking guys turn girls on the same way that good looking girls turn guys on. Good looking guys have more social proof, i e; her friends will be like "wow that guy you hooked up with is really good looking" Good looks can help, but in the end it's incomparable to game + substance. As for kino, not always, it depends on the circumstances. All gurus say Kino from the beginning because guys who read PUA material are generally NICE guys with beta traits. Kino is the perfect opportunity for them to display sexuality. But Kino itself is not a fundamental of game like escalation, attraction, challenge, etc. 99% of the time it's probably a good idea to kino from the beginning and escalate as time passes, but you also have to consider a situation where kino might communicate attraction too soon. When I'm gaming an HB9 for example, i'll kino later than if she was a 6. The 6 will jump at any morsel of male attention, the 9 might respond with "oh I already have him interested like every other guy in the club." |
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