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Author:  NSM [ Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:57 am ]
Post subject:  Routine Stacks and Way Points

One of the most common things we hear guys say is, “I didn’t know what to say next.” There are also guys who have no trouble having a conversation but those conversations never yield the results that they are looking for in building attraction. One answer for both of these problems is to use routines.

The World English Dictionary defines a routine as, “a usual or regular method of procedure, especially one that is unvarying.” For our purposes, a routine is any conversation thread that can be repeated over and over again from each set (or group of people) to the next.

There is a structure to successfully interacting with women as there are certain things that need to be accomplished for a successful seduction. I like to call these things ‘way points’. The way points will all need to be crossed the first time you meet a woman, preferably in order, to successfully create the opportunity for romance with that woman. In most successful interactions these way points will be moved through, whether the man and woman are consciously aware of what is happening or not.
The key way points are opening, demonstrating higher value (DHV), qualification, building comfort, escalating kino (kino, is short for kin esthetics, or any physical contact) throughout the interaction, and then closing (kiss closing is getting your first kiss, number closing is exchanging phone numbers with a girl, and the full close is having sex for the first time).

A routine stack, is a series of routines that allows you to progress through the way points while having fun and interesting conversation threads all along the way. When I start a conversation I use my opener, and see where the conversation goes. I'm a good conversationalist (read practiced). So I start the conversation, and whenever I get to that, "What do I say next?" point, I think of the way points. I ask myself, "Where am I along that way point path? Have I opened? Yes. Have I DHVed? Yes. Have I qualified? Oh, not yet, now it is time for my qualification routine!" I use my qualification routine, then roll forward until I get to another "What do I say next?" moment, and then re-evaluate. Having routines for the way points keeps you moving forward towards you goal of seduction and having other conversation in between lets you make a personal connection and be real.

When introduced to the concept of using routines, there are a few reasons why men may not want to use them. Many men find the idea uncomfortable and don’t want to use routines for that reason. Anything that you are not used to doing is going to be uncomfortable at first, until you are practiced at it. The more you use any specific routine, the more comfortable you will get with it. Eventually you will be so practiced at a routine that you will feel perfectly natural delivering it, won’t have to think about what you are saying as you deliver the routine, and will be mentally free to think about other things while you speak.

Many men also worry about feeling fake as they are using routines. In the beginning I would encourage you to use proven routines because they have given consistent results to countless other men in the past. Using proven routines allows you to experience the same proven results that those men before you have experienced. The truth is that there are plenty of proven routines that can be used for every way point and you are free to pick ones that are most congruent with who you are and who you want to be. Eventually you will develop your own personal routines and develop into a better conversationalist who only uses routines as a lifeline.

You may notice that many of the more advanced guys use fewer routines (or none at all) but can still pass through all the way points naturally. Many newer people want to skip to this point because running routines is uncomfortable at first and they want to be able to have the same success the advanced guys have without using routines. The problem with this is when you don’t have the confidence and experience that the advanced guy has which are major keys to his current success. Using a routine stack will help you get that experience and gain that confidence to lead you to early successes. Once enough successes are had, experienced is gained, and confidence is built, you may be able to use routines less and still have growing results.

Lastly, many men will worry about women calling them out on using routines. The odds of getting called out are actually very slim. In the case that you do get called out, if you can remain calm and roll forward, you will be fine.

My wing Maestro had an extreme case of this one time when the A-team was out on St.Patrick’s Day. The girl directly said to him, “Hey have you ever watched that show the Pick Up Artist? Because you are doing all that stuff right now.”

Without letting it affect his attitude at all, he said, “Yeah, I’m totally doing that right now and your loving it.”

She said, “Yeah, lets keep doing it on my friends!” And he continued the interaction.

While starting to use routines may be uncomfortable, their ability to solve those, “What do I say next?” moments, keep you moving through the waypoints, and deliver consistent predictable results, makes them an invaluable tool for success with women.

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