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Author:  DiaZepa [ Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:10 am ]
Post subject:  Desperate
I am falling apart right now. I the drill, dont fall in love, if you do fuck 10 women and you will forget about it blablabla. The thing is... I dont want to fuck 10 other women. I want this girl that must be the fucking push/pull expert. I need this woman.

So yeah, me and her have been going out having fun the last few days. And oh my god - She is so perfect. I thought we got a really good connecdtion but fuck no. A female friend of mine asked her what was between us two - and she said nothing! We were apparantly just having fun together. Im sorry if this post gets very emo but FUCK. I wanna be with her 24/7...

She also started touching my leg and putting her legs over mine the other day and resting her head on my shoulder, but fuck - once she didnt even touch me in a entire day except when i met her and when we said goodbye.

So she started talking to me about some dude she was flirting with a while ago, and that she felt sorry for him because she just stopped talking with him - and she also said that she wanted to fix stuff with her old BF, but didnt know if she really wanted to fix it.

Also, for every dark skinned baby she saw that day - she yelled OMG I WANT ONE LIKE THAT. Im white btw.

So what the fuck do i do? Is it just that she dosent tell everyone that she likes me, or just dosent she like me as a boyfriend. Holy shit this post went fucking emo. Just please give me some advice...
Author:  Hinduplaya [ Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:27 am ]
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she doesn't see you as a boyfriend...sorry dude that's just my opinion. I feel like you're being too friendly with her. Try to scale back, not care whether you see her or not. One time (and completely by accident) I was in the same position. I had to go on a trip for a week at the point where kind of in your position. she realized she missed and that she liked me(out of the blue...didn't realize push/pull was that effective). maybe this is your time to scale back completely, just vanish from her life?


idk just my opinion that not only would this work, but that you have nothing to lose.


and then when she asks wtf happened, just be like you've been busy and then maybe at one point bring up that you thought something was between you two and when you realized she didn't think the same way you just stopped seeing her completely. it'll show what you want, and that you are not desperate in any way nor do you actually need her in any way, which girls always find attractive. I honestly feel like this is a fool proof plan, but you should probably listen to a few other opinions too.

edit: Also, I feel like you're overthinking the baby reaction.
Author:  vicparkguy83 [ Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:36 am ]
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STICK TO THE PLAN

STICK TO THE PLAN

STICK TO THE PLAN

Seems like you know a bit about PUA and we all know this stuff works. Don't get your head in a spin over this girl, stick to the routines it's by far the best chance you have.
Author:  DiaZepa [ Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:37 am ]
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Thanks man, that sounds good.

Well, her x-boyfriend was dark skinned so thats why im so concerned about the baby thing
Author:  Hakuna [ Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:53 am ]
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lmaoo just relax man.
First a disclaimer: I heavily discourage Oneitis, psychological dependency, and pedestalizing girls, all 3 of which you're doing mercilessly right now. I'll give you advice on what you should do to build attraction with this girl, but you you need to do what you said, fuck 10 other girls, get over oneitis, etc.

(1) Stop Pedestalizing this girl: If she's as perfect as you say she is, her ass has been sitting atop the peak of the pyramid of Giza for her entire life. Girls like that need an asshole who is absolutely immune to her antics and beauty. They need a guy with a diabolically penetrating ability to tease and taunt, one that can knock them off of their pedestal and make them want to QUALIFY themselves for approval.

(2) When she says she wants to have a kid, you reply "aiiiite let's do this." When she mentions another guy, you tell her about this HB9 way hotter than her whose face you blasted all over like a Jackson Pilot. When she mentions her ex bf, you ask to see a picture of him, and then start laughing menacingly. Tease her ruthlessly, always be reinforcing dominance.

(3) Female hypergamy is the underlying motivator behind attraction. She needs to look up to you in some form or another. If you're falling head over heels for her, you aren't going to build any attraction. You can either manipulate hypergamy with substance (being rich, powerful, popular, etc), or with superior game (be aloof, project a prize mentality, be a challenge, etc).

(4) Girls want Guys who are Wanted. Unless it's clear to her that you are exercising other options and that you have other dates planned, you're going to fail. The hotter the girl, the more plates you need to spin concurrently.


Change your attitude. You need to be aloof, dominant, charming, and caddish. Right now you're being beta, beta, beta, and beta. The former is a much more effective strategy for getting women.

Oh and make sure you PASS HER SHIT TESTS. I promise you, she's already smelled a bit of beta blood in you so you need to step your game up or throw in the towel.

And the reason why I said you should just get over her is because you're constructing your own destruction right now. If hypothetically a guy ever gets with a girl he pedestalizes, which is already unlikely, he will inevitably fall back into old AFC patterns and feed into his own insecurities.
Author:  lolaskate [ Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:03 am ]
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Break off all contact for a month or so. Send her a text saying to catch up or something. Change of plans, some business shit came up. Another week or two later. Text again and order a date. Right now, if she doesn't see you as anything, probably not much point trying anything new. She needs to know the feeling of sadness, not being around you. She needs get her shit together rather than sending you all these mixed messages. In that time, if she gets another bf or something, she probably wasn't into you. If she was into you, she'll probably be thinking about you every day.
Author:  0uch [ Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:29 am ]
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lmaoo just relax man.
First a disclaimer: I heavily discourage Oneitis, psychological dependency, and pedestalizing girls, all 3 of which you're doing mercilessly right now. I'll give you advice on what you should do to build attraction with this girl, but you you need to do what you said, fuck 10 other girls, get over oneitis, etc.

(1) Stop Pedestalizing this girl: If she's as perfect as you say she is, her ass has been sitting atop the peak of the pyramid of Giza for her entire life. Girls like that need an asshole who is absolutely immune to her antics and beauty. They need a guy with a diabolically penetrating ability to tease and taunt, one that can knock them off of their pedestal and make them want to QUALIFY themselves for approval.

(2) When she says she wants to have a kid, you reply "aiiiite let's do this." When she mentions another guy, you tell her about this HB9 way hotter than her whose face you blasted all over like a Jackson Pilot. When she mentions her ex bf, you ask to see a picture of him, and then start laughing menacingly. Tease her ruthlessly, always be reinforcing dominance.

(3) Female hypergamy is the underlying motivator behind attraction. She needs to look up to you in some form or another. If you're falling head over heels for her, you aren't going to build any attraction. You can either manipulate hypergamy with substance (being rich, powerful, popular, etc), or with superior game (be aloof, project a prize mentality, be a challenge, etc).

(4) Girls want Guys who are Wanted. Unless it's clear to her that you are exercising other options and that you have other dates planned, you're going to fail. The hotter the girl, the more plates you need to spin concurrently.


Change your attitude. You need to be aloof, dominant, charming, and caddish. Right now you're being beta, beta, beta, and beta. The former is a much more effective strategy for getting women.

Oh and make sure you PASS HER SHIT TESTS. I promise you, she's already smelled a bit of beta blood in you so you need to step your game up or throw in the towel.

And the reason why I said you should just get over her is because you're constructing your own destruction right now. If hypothetically a guy ever gets with a girl he pedestalizes, which is already unlikely, he will inevitably fall back into old AFC patterns and feed into his own insecurities.

What he said
Author:  DiaZepa [ Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:29 am ]
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Holy shit man, thanks

Gonna concentrate on prizing from now on, and be kind of aloof. I need this fucking chick, fuck. How do you suggest I talk to her on facebook and such?

EDIT: What if she sees me as a douchebag?
Author:  Hakuna [ Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:29 am ]
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EDIT: What if she sees me as a douchebag?
"Let's just not know each other" is better than "let's just be friends"

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Gonna concentrate on prizing from now on, and be kind of aloof. I need this fucking chick, fuck.
Lmfao, so much for not getting Oneitis. I am going to share a secret with you that will change your game forever.

You don't actually need to solve your desperation, you just need to pretend you did. Chicks are much more shallow than you think and game is much more effective than you think. Just STOP saying insecure things and you'll be 90% more likely to get her. For example, next time you wanna say "I need this chick fuck," chug a can of rat poison.

Next time you have the urge to tell her "hey i really like you," immediately go home and force yourself to jack off to gay porn. After ruthlessly conditioning your body to HATE saying insecure things, you'll start twitching nervously before saying insecure things and you will naturally start spitting out more Alpha / suave lines.
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How do you suggest I talk to her on facebook and such?
Neg the shit out of her. Penetrate her ego like it was her vagina. Avoid hard negs though, girls hate when you overtly lower their sexual market value in public. The ONLY exception being if you are ALREADY going out and you've established a very high position of AMOG. In that case, humiliating her is a sign of raw dominance and will make her shutter with hatred and arousal (the two emotions are highly connected in the female psyche. Do not confuse hatred for alphas that give them vagina tingles vs hatred for betas which is more of just a frustrating nag).



Unless you plan on getting with this girl posthumously, you have to get your game together and stop pedestalizing her.

Never. Make. It. Easy. For. A. Girl.
Author:  Fvckitimout [ Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:53 am ]
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She sounds like a bitch. And you sound like you are horny. Youve been replaying thoughts in your head about how it would feel to see her naked and how it would feel to fuck her. So basically you want to fulfill that dream. Whats killing you is the anticipation.

Whats the solution? Masturbate.
Author:  DiaZepa [ Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:54 pm ]
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Lol, thanks!

I usually neg females in photos anyways like "God damn, youre fucking pale!"
God, I need training in this sort of shit, fuck.

This girl said that she'd rather be with ex-boyfriend A than ex-boyfriend B because ex boyfriend A is much nicer. Is this just bullshit? Because A is indeed a nicer person, but he is a very central part of a popular gang in my city. But yeah. I think i need some help here, and Im so fucking glad i chose this forum! Thanks for the help.

Keep the tips coming, everything helps (as long as I can apply it to my game, which sucks at the moment, halp)

EDIT: I know what feel you refer to, but in this case - masturbation didn't help the slightest, what the fuck.
Author:  Lava [ Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:31 pm ]
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she went black, she's never coming back! jokes!

girls sense desperation dude, you seem very desperate, I would ignore all the shit about her ex other guys, change the topic or just show you're only interested in her. but with your high desperation level, which women sense from miles away, you won't get far, keep your cool. I guarantee you a guy who's less interested in her can probably get her before you...stop being desperate or feeling desparate. she's just a girl different to no one, I don't care what you say about her
Author:  calimoxo [ Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:32 pm ]
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Man, I like that you are comfortable telling complete strangers about when you jack off! hahaha...shit if you can do that, you can deal with this girl.
She is JUST A GIRL. All this stardust in your head around her is your mind playing tricks on you. From the outside she comes across as a total bitch.

That's cool. Treat her like a bitch then. Then if she starts acting like a lady, treat her like one. If she slips back into being a bitch, treat her like a bitch.

This is about more than you fucking this girl - this is about your self-image. Allowing yourself to get such an attachment to one thing is NOT healthy.

Listen to Hakuna, neg the fuck out of her ego - she says she wants a black baby? Start calling her Madonna.

This post is proof positive that attachment to singluar things causes more issues than having an abundance mentality.

You do not NEED this chick - You do NOT NEED this chick.

She should be lucky enough to be on your dick - and if she don't act right, you're slamming something else anyway. Or doing something else awesome in your life.

Reclaim your balls from her handbag my man :-D
Author:  DiaZepa [ Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:37 pm ]
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Haha, thanks!

Not to be that douche who has to be spoonfed canned shit, but does anyone know what i shall say? Any negs, what not to focus on while negging, attitude, humor etc - everything!
Author:  cahill4554 [ Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:40 am ]
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This is some of the most beta shit I've ever seen. Shes a fucking girl with a vag to plow and a mouth that'll probably never stop flapping, just like every other bitch. Get over her, seriously. If you really want her then don't focus on her, start tapping some other bitches if you actually can
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