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Author:  Khrem [ Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Interested but not invested...

Dilemma
I've realized that, recently, on the sets I haven't been able to close, I couldn't get to comfort building, at least not efficiently.

What I mean is that, I would open, run a routine, maybe routine stack, and the girls are interested. But it's me doing most of the talking, which I don't have a problem doing, but it feels like they are not that invested in the conversation, and I haven't been able create attraction. Then the conversation just kind of dies, even after I finish my routines or DHV with stories.

Things I've noticed
The girls are very low energy. I go in with very high energy. It's like we're not even on the same level.
The girls I've failed are like HB6,7 and seem kind of shy (again, low energy).
My negs and DHV isn't creating attraction.

Questions
Negs+DHV has worked well to create attraction on like HB8s and HB9s for me. How to deal with HB6,7s?
Do I need to tone down my energy level?

Author:  Chord [ Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:56 pm ]
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I don't think you have to neg the HB6-7's. Those girls are often shy, so negs could make it worse. But, DHV should work! I don't have much experience, but negs work better on the hotter girls! And to be honest, I don't know anything about the effect of high energy on shy girls, but it might intimidate them a little..

Good luck!

- Chord

Author:  Mack 2.0 [ Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:04 pm ]
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might you be talking your way right OUT of sexual tension?

silence is ok.

plus it makes her feel tension, and then she'll want to talk.

Author:  charblad [ Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:10 am ]
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lol ill go against chord here a lil and say you CAN neg 6-7's, but ONCE and ONLY ONCE (i like to set it up in a win-win way, for instance "you have really nice muscles for a girl", if she compliments you back you keep it there and you bond more, if she says something mean or does BS you can say 'i said FOR A GIRL' see how you win either way?). and have you heard of the 90-10 rule? 90% of the time your talking in the first 10-ish mins of the conv, dont expect more than this (but dont stop them if they are talking more) XD. the other problem is your "finishing my DHV's and routines". Don't get to the end, make them want it to keep going and make them ask you to do so. then #C or whatever you want...

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