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Author:  Muze [ Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:03 am ]
Post subject:  How do i game a girl with a jealous ex and low self esteem?
I'll keep it short.

Been talking to this gal for a little over a month now. We've met up a few times and I've kissed closed everytime. I haven't talked to her about her past relationship at all (thought this would go against the rules of pua) but I can tell it really took a toll on her self esteem. She makes depressing FB statuses sometimes and tells me she feels down a lot.

She's about a 9 looks-wise and is a really cool person, so I feel bad for her. She texted me today that her ex found out about us and is calling her all kinds of names. We haven't even screwed yet. :(

I really want to help this girl, because she has a lot of potential and I feel bad for her. I'm not gonna go completely AFC, don't worry. But should I give in and talk about her problems a little bit?

What would you guys do?
Author:  Maikuljay [ Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:04 am ]
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As much as you want to help.. this is not your problem.

I would avoid the whole situation - you dont want to get drawn into her bullshiit.

The reality of the situation is, she may be a 9.. but if she's not ready to commit to you /screw you.. well she's no good and deserves a strong -- NEXT


Dont be the emotional tampon that she uses to catapult her to a more suited MAN.


All things considered, if you like the girl.. sure, stick around... But let her deal with her own problems.. your probably the last person who can help. Her jealous ex will drive her into your arms quicker than anything else anyway.


Personally, I would let things run it's course.. Remember bring her into your reality not visa-versa
Author:  Muze [ Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:15 pm ]
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Good advice, thanks man. I kind of like her so I'm not going to completely forget her.. but you're right. It's not my place to solve her problems. Time to go cold and work on my others. 8)
Author:  Maikuljay [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:35 am ]
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Good advice, thanks man. I kind of like her so I'm not going to completely forget her.. but you're right. It's not my place to solve her problems. Time to go cold and work on my others. 8)
Good for you man,

I get the whole - white knight, rescue the damsel in distress kinda thing... but i've done it and suffered because of it.

Who knows.. she may eat that shiit up, just make sure when things go bad.. you got back up's
Author:  Muze [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:31 am ]
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Appreciate the thoughts, man. Thanks for straightening my head.

It's funny, because I want to help her. I feel bad for her, and I think that a girl as beautiful and genuinely cool as her should feel better about themselves and be surrounded by more positive people in her life. But it's not my place to solve her problems.

She is hot enough that she probably has guys texting her every night kissing her ass and listening to her shit. I've done well enough to score a few dates and get her interested, but the moment I start listening and becoming an outlet to her problems I'm just like all the other suckers. There's nothing alpha about listening to a girl's problems who isn't 100% committed to you.

I wish they would teach you this stuff in movies.
Author:  Maikuljay [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:32 pm ]
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Appreciate the thoughts, man. Thanks for straightening my head.

It's funny, because I want to help her. I feel bad for her, and I think that a girl as beautiful and genuinely cool as her should feel better about themselves and be surrounded by more positive people in her life. But it's not my place to solve her problems.
You feel that cos your a nice guy... this however is likely to be your downfall.
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She is hot enough
This is why you feel like you want to help her. - Imagine if she was 200lbs and ugly would you do the same? or adopt the mentality "naaa, she can look after herself"
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that she probably has guys texting her every night kissing her ass and listening to her shit. I've done well enough to score a few dates and get her interested, but the moment I start listening and becoming an outlet to her problems I'm just like all the other suckers. There's nothing alpha about listening to a girl's problems who isn't 100% committed to you.

I wish they would teach you this stuff in movies.
100% correct my man, you know the score.. just make sure you stick too it.. too many time i've done the same thing - Know how it needs to go yet I still find myself doing things which I know I shouldn't..

The inner chode just takes over sometimes.. Actually happened to me last night... And i knew It, I could feel it, But I did it anyway, and it went down right how I knew it would - and I regretted it..

Just be careful man... those pesky feelings are could potentially ruin a beautiful thing..

Having said that - Don't be too cold... be Icy... Not cold..
Author:  Muze [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:09 am ]
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UPDATE:

She texted me Thurday night around midnight, wanted me to come to her house so we could "cuddle" and have a sleepover. She was being oober flirty and I wanted to go with every fiber of my being, but I played it off and said I couldn't make it on such short notice. Shit test passed :D

Friday night was a different story however. Her cousin died that day and she was feeling pretty upset. She wanted me to come over late again because her friends and parents were out of town and she didn't want to feel alone. Normally I would say no, but as a human I figured it would be the right thing to do.

Well, I got there and she didn't seem too upset. Maybe she just wanted to forget about it, which I understand. But she was all over me. We layed on the couch and watched a movie, a lot of physical contact but I made it a point not to kiss her.

I think it worked.

Right after I left she updates her FB status with some lyrics from a love song and today she did one of those survey things on FB and made it very clear that she likes someone a lot right now. (I really need to cut back on the creeping)

I haven't initiated contact since Friday. Is this the right thing to do? Well. I'm pretty sure it is. It's gotten me this far. But when should I start.. you know.. kinda making it evident that I like her?
Author:  Txacoli [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:15 am ]
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It sounds good so far, she's initiating and you played it well. I think you can let her know you like her, don't tell her, show it to her. Send her a message that shows you've been thinking about her, but don't ask to see her. Something like you've had a lot of fun doing xy but it would have been even more awesome if she was with you. Then let her contact you again and set up a get together.
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:37 am ]
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Good advice, thanks man. I kind of like her so I'm not going to completely forget her.. but you're right. It's not my place to solve her problems. Time to go cold and work on my others. 8)
Good for you man,

I get the whole - white knight, rescue the damsel in distress kinda thing... but i've done it and suffered because of it.

Who knows.. she may eat that shiit up, just make sure when things go bad.. you got back up's
white knight sucks .. everyone tries to be a white knight ...
be a black night in shining armor .. black knights look cool , don't give a shit, have cynical humour, have more hitpoints....
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