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| Author: | lukeyx [ Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | being an 'alpha' and 'fighting' |
Before i say anything, the phrase im going to be told is 'give what you can take', but im generally not a fighter. Anyways, heres the story... This girl, who ive known for a long time, has a boyfriend, and a few weeks back she punched me in the face, in a instant reaction i hit her back, only on the arm though. Therefore, her boyfriend was after me, probably about an hour ago he hit me, kicked me in and i didnt react a single bit, i never get bothered at all in fights, i can get hit as much as i want and never give a fuck, i dont know why i do this myself. I feel i can fight if i want too, but for some reason i just dont, ive got the confidence but i just choose not to fight what so ever, if someone could explain this and why i choose not to hit back then please do. After the fight i stood up and acted like nothing happened, like i said, i never give a fuck what happens to me, never. What im wondering is if this affects my 'alpha' status, if im looked down on and what not. What do chicks who saw it think of me and such, i always choose never to fight, ever, and girls know that but its my first time its happened to me properly. |
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| Author: | DboTheHero [ Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:00 am ] |
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I'm not having a go at you, but I'm just confused how your instant reaction to a girl hitting you is to hit her back, yet nothing when a guy hits you. Maybe subconsciously you felt guilty for hitting the girl and you thought you deserved it in a way? Not necessarily my opinion, just might be why you let him do what he did. |
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| Author: | lukeyx [ Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:06 am ] |
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nahh, i never felt guilt, the difference between the guy and the girl hitting me is that the guy i was prepared for, the girl i wasnt, if the guy had hit me randomly id hit him. In a way i wish i hit him afterwards, though i question myself on why i didn't, but my brain at the time told me to not react, i dont know why though, if anyone could tell me a psychological reason on why i didnt react then please do. |
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| Author: | Mack 2.0 [ Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:22 am ] |
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NEVER hit a girl (get another girl to do it for you) |
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| Author: | Sixpounder [ Sat Jun 04, 2011 3:59 am ] |
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Quote: NEVER hit a girl
This, other than playful hitting.(get another girl to do it for you) If a girl hits you in a violent fashion, hold onto her shoulders with both of your hands and hold her at arms length (don't be rough, just assertive), look her in the eyes and say 100% seriously: "you do not do that to me". As for the fight with the guy, I'm very similar in this respect - I don't have a natural impulse to fight, I simply don't care. However, if you just stand there and take a beating, you're displaying low value; you should have hit him back. One of my rules is, if I must fight, it will be a short fight: incapacitate your opponent as quickly and efficiently as possible e.g. punch him in the throat. |
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| Author: | Sly_Wolf [ Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:53 am ] |
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its probably related to your childhood. You might have gotten a suggestion somewhere not to fight or avoiding fights shows strength. You need to have some knowledge in psychology to analyze yourself and aswer that question cause no one here knows you and therefore they can only guess as to why you do that. As for girls looking down on you after the fight, it all depends on body language. If you stand up with a smirk on your face as if the guy punches like a girl and anything he does doesnt bother you at all, then you should be able to maintain your alpha status. If you stand up as if you have no courage to fight or you look scared etc. then you will look beta. |
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| Author: | jurupa [ Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:01 am ] |
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Quote: NEVER hit a girl That is unless you need too. I know I would take a girl down to the ground and then some if a girl tries to kill me.
(get another girl to do it for you) |
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| Author: | anthonypham [ Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: being an 'alpha' and 'fighting' |
[quote="lukeyx" he hit me, kicked me in and i didnt react a single bit, [/quote] alpha man or not alpha man, gaming or not gaming, i would never let myself kicked by someone! This is not about DHV/DLV anymore, this is about respect: everyone should be treated with respect. |
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| Author: | BushMan [ Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:10 am ] |
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Ofcourse you can hit a girl back out of self defense. No matter if she hits you hard or not, her intention is to hurt you. Because alot of people say ''girls don't hit that hard'' but if you would meet a guy who punched you really soft ''girlylike'' you would hit him back too right? It's about the intention not the damage. |
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| Author: | Little Panda [ Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:31 pm ] |
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You don't ever participate in fights, and yet you're OK with punching a girl? I'm jealous of your alphaness, teach me how, oh mighty master! |
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| Author: | lukeyx [ Sat Jun 04, 2011 3:38 pm ] |
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i might teach you one day panda, maybe one day i see where your coming from sly, think i realise why now, whats the best way to get out of that mindset and stop making myself look like a pussy, take up a sport like boxing/MMA etc? |
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| Author: | Lodewijkp [ Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:16 pm ] |
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if she would come at me with full aggression ... i would punch her as well - i mean who the fuck does she think she is.... if it's playfull or it doesn't hurt - like a bitch slap i wouldn't care that much... the best thing to do it using submissions and chokes. personally ... i would kick both their asses .. fuck this girl and fuck this guy ... really they have no right to punch you... next time fight... a few stomps on the head and you could die. |
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| Author: | BushMan [ Sat Jun 04, 2011 7:23 pm ] |
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Quote: if she would come at me with full aggression ... i would punch her as well - i mean who the fuck does she think she is.... That's right! You gotta beat that ass!
if it's playfull or it doesn't hurt - like a bitch slap i wouldn't care that much... the best thing to do it using submissions and chokes. personally ... i would kick both their asses .. fuck this girl and fuck this guy ... really they have no right to punch you... next time fight... a few stomps on the head and you could die. |
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| Author: | DeepCover [ Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:15 pm ] |
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You're question should be why are you getting into fights in the 1st place. That alone makes you a loser to most (including women). How about you just work on not fighting in the first place? At 33 I've been in exactly one real fight (100% self-defense) and I've been in plenty of dicey situations, a mexican gangbanger and a girl's jealous ex, for example. Oh and I punched a girl in the arm once for putting her cig cherry on the back of my hand. Can't blame you for reacting. |
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| Author: | Akomplice [ Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:16 am ] |
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I know you say you don't care but how do you react to being hit? Be honest, are you afraid to get hit? I know you'll hear a lot of "just punch him in the throat to incapacitate him" or "grab his balls, twist and scream like a nut case" lol It's easy for someone who's never been in a fight to say that they'd just hit someone in the throat. It's a good move if you need to seriously hurt the other guy. Hitting someone in the throat when you don't know what your doing could be deadly, only use that in serious situations. Life or death. If you don't want to fight, and you want to look mature and tough walk away. That's the best thing to do, if you can before it starts. After it starts if you run away.. Well you know what that would look like. You can have all the plans in the world, you can learn any martial art you want but the fact is if you can't take a hit, the second the other guy lands a good punch the first time all of that goes out the window. In Muay Thai, they didn't let you spar or get in a ring for a couple months while you learned the basics. I saw a guy who was absolutely flawless in his technique, he could hit the bag and throw combos way faster than I could, get in the ring for the first time and be totally confident get hit once and it was like he decided he was already going to lose. It's a fact that the first hit is the most important when you're in a street fight. Of course the last hit is important too but the first hit sets the tone for the whole fight, which from experience only lasts about 1 to 3 minutes. I've also seen a friend of mine that was in a fight with someone he had no chance with, swing wildly and knock the other guy out with one crazy haymaker. So never think you can't lose or win, anyone can get a lucky punch and end the whole thing fast. Now that I've gotten a little older I know fighting isn't cool, there's very few things in life worth fighting over. Fighting over any girl who isn't your wife isn't one of them but I know sometimes it can't be avoided. In that case you should always hit first. I'd way rather throw a kick than a punch but unless you know what you're doing you could end up doing more harm than good and looking completely ridiculous before getting your ass kicked. Some guys think it is tough to not fight back, or that it somehow looks honorable. If you get hit and do anything but smile you look weak. Even if you smile, if you get hit more than once. If you get kicked on the ground... First of all let me tell you, anyone who stomps someone who's obviously down is a pussy. If you're the one being kicked on the ground, you should know that one well placed kick could kill you or cause severe damage. It doesn't take much of a kick to the head or even the kidneys, chest, stomach to cause major damage. So don't ever lay down and take a beating, who gives a fuck how you look at that point it's life or death. Do whatever you can to get up. It's very hard to sit, stand or lay there taking hits and not look weak. It's really easier just to try to fight back, even if you can't fight at least you tried. Always, always always get up as fast as you can if you get knocked, taken or tripped down. If you don't know how to fight on the ground you're better off standing up than having some asshole sit on your shoulders and hit you or spit in your face(happens). The best advice I can give after probably boring you to death with all that would be.. Walk away before it escalates, if you can't.. Keep your head and hands up, tuck your chin in and protect your nose. Hit first and hard, twist your hips(use your hips when you punch, it's hard to explain in words.) and lead and follow through with your shoulder. Always get up as fast as you can, and don't give up. Aim for the nose, it's easy to break. Seeing all that blood will scare the other guy. When you break your nose your eyes tear up to the point you can't see. Google how to make a fist, if you don't know how you could hurt yourself. Maybe google how to throw a proper punch but the Internet can only help you a little bit. Sorry for such a long post, I just want to help people defend themselves. |
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