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Author:  gtdave [ Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:54 am ]
Post subject:  Barely Believable
This is a relationship question but I'm too new to post it in the relevant forum.

This might come across as a pile of lies but it's not!

I've just started dating this properly stunning girl who is a proper 10 out of 10. I would be a 7. I'll give a bit of background on her...

She is an ex model and both of her brothers are celebrities/sports stars. Her parents are very wealthy, as they own a hotel and resort in the south of France along with 200 or so houses. She works with footballers every day but she says she is not interested in that type of person because they all cheat! She is also not interested in money as she has plenty herself! This is fair enough and I believe her.

I've just started going out with her, with us both agreeing we would like to be in a serious relationship with each other and see where it leads! Admittedly I'm a bit of an afc but I do ok with girls by just being myself.

She told me right at the start of the relationship that she just wants to be treated right and loved and that she might be very insecure, which she is! She hates me going on lads nights out and is always worried I'm going to leave her. I'm flattered and confused by this, as she is way out of my league and could have any man! I'm sure the footballers all try it on!

I managed to start going out with her because she said that she wants a guy to be romantic and to think about her first thing in the morning until last thing at night! She said she wanted someone to take care of her and treat her with respect because she has been badly hurt in the past. Ex boyfriend got physical with her :(

I took all this in and complimented her a lot and made her my girlfriend by actually just being caring and a nice guy! No games!

She is obviously insecure so how should I play this to get it safely past the three month Mark? We have been going out for a month and having sex ect. and everything is good but I feel I may be complimenting too much but I don't want to appear a jerk either!

What am I dealing with here and what's your advice?

I'm not normally a needy bf but it's as if that's what she wants!

Cheers
Author:  Lucky Luciano [ Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:27 am ]
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First off, i'd like to say that I do not doubt the validity of your story. I've been with the same kind of girl who was a 10/10 and was very insecure and needy, and wanted that kind of guy who compliments her, and treats her like a queen. From my experience with dealing with women like this I find that their insecurities are the source of their neediness, and aren't worth the frustration and these kind of women will likely tie you down, or at least try to. I believe they're truly dead weight.

To answer your question, I'd say that the complimenting and treating her like a queen would most definitely get old. Here's a good analogy: "Compliments are like perfume. A little bit here and there is good, but too much smells like shit." So to answer your question, you probably shouldn't let this female tell you what she wants because 99% of the time these women don't really know what they want. They think they want something, then they get it, and after a while it loses its effect it once had. Trust me, everything gets old, no matter what she tells you.
Author:  gtdave [ Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:15 am ]
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Yea I've experienced the tying down thing already. I initially mistook it for just confident forwardness on her part. She repeatedly said stuff like "are you off the Market now?" and "so am I yours exclusively yet?"

In all honesty I actually don't mind this because at least you know where you stand. For me there is nothing worse than those girls who don't know what they want. Underneath the insecurities there is a nice girl!
Author:  gtdave [ Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:41 am ]
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Ps, how do you reckon I keep the spark while toning down the compliments?
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:17 am ]
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I've just started dating this properly stunning girl who is a proper 10 out of 10. I would be a 7. I'll give a bit of background on her...
LOL YOU GIVE YOURSELF A 7 ? YOU PUT HER ABOVE YOURSELF ?????
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I'm flattered and confused by this, as she is way out of my league and could have any man! I'm sure the footballers all try it on!
WTF

because of the 2 things above you should really put your head into a toilet and flush 7 times.

why are you with a girl when you think you don't deserve her ? .... you might as well break up now.

some real inner game problems here lol...

what did she do to look good ? NOTHING .. god just make her look this way ... and yeah she puts make up on everyday BUT ALL WOMAN do so because they are insecure when it comes to appearance.

her parents are rich lol ...... i mean WTF .. is that even important ? i don't give a shit if she's rich or not, all i need is someone who can fuck and suck dick on expert level + a good classy personality.
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I'm not normally a needy bf but it's as if that's what she wants!
oxymoron ... lol really .... you might as well cutoff your balls and give it to her on her birthday....she is fucking messed up, if she wants you to be needy you are fucking up yourself - why do i even need to explain this ?

give me your adress ... i will kick your door in put your head in the toilet and wake you up ... i mean wtf dude .. you don't sound like a man at all - you have this boyish energy all over your post.

if someone thinks he doesn't deserve something he will try to make it go away - you can think you don't deserve : pain , bad shit , money , love etc.
i see this as the starting process of you unconciously trying to fuck up your relationship without even realizing it.... there are people who get succes and then will start to sabotage their own succes because in their mind it's not what they want - it's not their purpose in life.

her making you insecure because of something she's saying lol .... cmon ... do i really need to facepalm myself ? DO you really think woman are attracted to looks and superficial values only ? did you never see a ugly old bald dude walking around with a hot girl ? jezus christ dude ... be nice to yourself because you probably deserve to be nice to yourself.

the above + what lucky luciano wrote.
Author:  gtdave [ Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:13 pm ]
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I'm not insecure at all, if she leaves fuck her she's not worth it! I'll find someone else! Me saying I'm a 7 is not an insecurity it's realistic!

I was trying to ask how to go about breaking down HER insecurities! Her wealth is not an issue it's a bonus! I think you may have misunderstood my post.
Author:  Hakuna [ Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:50 pm ]
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(A) If you give a girl higher value than yourself, you will lose her. It is an unforgivable violation of sexual dynamics. If you want to keep a girl you must NEVER be afraid to lose her.

(B) A girls primary imperative as a girlfriend is to maximize attention from you and turn you into a beta. Women use sex to get relationships, men use relationships to get sex. This is why girls shit test, nag, and always complain. If you give in, you might feed her desire for nourishment / affection, but it decays the attraction between you two. You don't need to act like an obnoxious dick, but do NOT act needy. Remember, a girl will use ANY method necessary to get you on your knees whether it's flirting with other guys to make you jealous, playing hard to get to make you frustrated, or telling you your an asshole and that you need to be more romantic. It's all a form of shit testing.

(C) She just doesn't want you to be a jerk, which you shouldn't be. Where nice guys introvert their insecurities, jerks simply extrovert them. What you want to be is a GOOD guy, a rare and dying breed. Be dominant, be smooth, and be a MAN. Don't be indecisive, don't be supplicating her ego, don't prostrate, don't beg for sex, don't act need, don't be pathetic, don't be desperate for her. You must be IMMUNE to her beauty.

Your mentality right now is creating a breeding ground for Oneitis, you have to mercilessly squash your desperation
Author:  gtdave [ Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:16 pm ]
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I get what y'all are saying but I'm not really that worried about loosing her I'm more just trying to find the successful method of making this last! I really appreciate the last post!

Out of interest, whenever she texts "I want you to behave yourself tonight, no kissing other girls! xxxxxxx"

What's the reply to that?
Author:  vrblasasn [ Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:45 pm ]
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i'm fairly sure what i'm going to say just reinforces what everyone else says. so my last girl (all though not rich, no where near a ten) very insecure, was physically abused by here ex. same fucking thing. but i'm going to make a long story very short after six months of me treating her like a queen, she ended up leaving me to go back to the guy that beat the shit out of her! so my suggestion either drop her, or don't give her exactly what she wants. don't constantly compliment her, go out with your boys! make her work for you!
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:19 am ]
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I'm not insecure at all, if she leaves fuck her she's not worth it! I'll find someone else! Me saying I'm a 7 is not an insecurity it's realistic!
i still got a problem with this ... you are saying you are AFC in a realistic sense. if you give a insecure woman higher value than yourself you must be AFC .... how can make her feel less insecure if you are insecure yourself ?

you give a insecure woman higher value than yourself .... lol ... facepalming while rolling on the floor....you are constantly contradicting yourself...

you even tell you don't care if she walks away .. such passive ... since you give her high value i think you will care if she walked away. that's just how humans work , you feel loss when something of value leaves your life.

with passive i mean that you should said YOU would leave her without any problem.

afc as fuck .... im asking you to change your mindset ...
give yourself a 10
give her a 7

if she had a big dick you wouldn't give her a 10 , you probably raise the number because she got a vagina.
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