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Author:  Ziffer [ Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Daytime game Using MM method questions
These questions are from a different forum, but I would like them to be answered.Hi everyone. Good to be here. So I just was exposed to the Mystery Method about two weeks ago and dove into this head first I've read through The Game, The Mystery Method, and Revelation. I feel like I have a pretty good understanding of how it works on that subconscious non verbal communication level. I find the MM near perfect I've seen aspects of certain techniques in my exchanges with women in the past that have worked which is why I find this so exciting to get started.

Now it's time to apply the method. I still have some AA that I would like to master. From Mystery's perspective the easiest way to go is hit the clubs 4 nights a week. However right now I'm in a town of about 30,000. There are no clubs here. I realize a good way to go would be to move which I very well may do but right now I'd like to make do with what I have in the meantime. This means developing my daytime game.

I need some specific tips on how to apply the method to certain daytime situations. I'd like to get some answers to questions I have. If there is an old thread or an archive you can point me to please do so. Here are my questions:

1. I've heard a lot about 1 on 1 direct and indirect methods. How much do the do the rules change in a 1 on 1?

2. Daytime can be less intense; the conversation can be slower but at the same time you may only get 5 minutes with a woman. They aren't always somewhere where they are going to stay very long. Is it still best to wait until C1 to number close in a daytime situation?

3. Moving the set/Isolating the target. If I were to find say a 3 set during the day on the street and I wanted to isolate the target what are your experiences with that sort of situation? Should I move them to a store or coffee shop in order to get the target to a comfortable spot to sit down? Or can you do it right there?

4. I frequently see two sets during the day. How would I handle that situation without a wing?

5. Openers. Are openers different during the day? Like say the opinion openers like "Herman changed his name to steve he's getting laid like a rock star" are these still usable for day game? Should conversation be tweaked to be less sexual/intense?

Thank you in advance for your advice. I really appreciate it. If you have any other daytime tips for a guy in a small town feel free to contribute those as well.
Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Daytime game Using MM method questions
Quote:
1. I've heard a lot about 1 on 1 direct and indirect methods. How much do the do the rules change in a 1 on 1?

2. Daytime can be less intense; the conversation can be slower but at the same time you may only get 5 minutes with a woman. They aren't always somewhere where they are going to stay very long. Is it still best to wait until C1 to number close in a daytime situation?

3. Moving the set/Isolating the target. If I were to find say a 3 set during the day on the street and I wanted to isolate the target what are your experiences with that sort of situation? Should I move them to a store or coffee shop in order to get the target to a comfortable spot to sit down? Or can you do it right there?

4. I frequently see two sets during the day. How would I handle that situation without a wing?

5. Openers. Are openers different during the day? Like say the opinion openers like "Herman changed his name to steve he's getting laid like a rock star" are these still usable for day game? Should conversation be tweaked to be less sexual/intense?
1. Everything is the exact opposite! Open a girl DIRECT by telling her you saw her walking past, you find her attractive, and you wanted to meet her (in your own words). You are now immediately in A3->C1

2. You only need 5 minutes - find out about her, tell a funny story, tell you wanna meet up and do X or Y with her this week, get her number. That's it!

3. Just share the conversation between all 3, making sure to focus mainly on your target. As long as you are a friendly, fun guy, the friends will wait around whilst you n-close their friend.

4. As with (3). Best way is to open the friend and ask if you can hit on her friend a sec, or say they're both really gorgeous but you just have a thing for (whatever characteristics your target has that the friend doesn't) and then proceed.

5. Opening INdirectly during the day is even more pointless than at night. Why on earth are you STOPPING someone during the day to ask them some opinion? Open with a compliment, so it's absolutely clear why you're talking to her - because you want to flirt, and find out if she's cool enough to take out on a date! If she's not interested, you've wasted 1 minute, if she IS, you've got attraction ALREADY and can proceed in the knowledge that she's interested and wants to get to know you too!

Check out this video series on daygame for more detail http://www.sashapua.com/get-my-free-vid ... t-approach
Author:  D.O.S [ Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:59 pm ]
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Though I'm not insanely skilled in cold approaching at daygame, I'll try to the best of my knowledge and experience to answer.

1. I've heard a lot about 1 on 1 direct and indirect methods. How much do the do the rules change in a 1 on 1?

the rules do not change in 1on1 direct/indirect approach during daytime gaming, for some the direct approach is working like a charm, for others, myself included its the indirect game that we are most comfortable with, however in my experience direct approach is usually a lot more risky in day game, and i like to avoid it, though i use it in clubs/bars etc.

2. Daytime can be less intense; the conversation can be slower but at the same time you may only get 5 minutes with a woman. They aren't always somewhere where they are going to stay very long. Is it still best to wait until C1 to number close in a daytime situation?

sure it can be a more relaxed game, but then again, in a nightclub you might only get 1 minute with a girl, it all depends on how good you are, if you can built attraction and rapport, the big difference is that you usually go for a kiss or full close in the clubs where daygame is more directed at number closing, when to do that i can't tell you, i work on instinct on this point


3. Moving the set/Isolating the target. If I were to find say a 3 set during the day on the street and I wanted to isolate the target what are your experiences with that sort of situation? Should I move them to a store or coffee shop in order to get the target to a comfortable spot to sit down? Or can you do it right there?

yes, you can. But depending on the situation it can be near impossible to completely isolate the target from her friends, though a bench, a cafe or a coffee shop are all very common places to move the group or isolate to, i suggest getting a wing, but maybe some of the other guys have a solution for daytime isolation.


4. I frequently see two sets during the day. How would I handle that situation without a wing?

Just as i handle any other two set, though i'd never try to isolate my target from her friend in a daytime two-set, but i will try to move them both, i'd rather game them and get the obstacle to approve me, and then have that value when i try to number-close

5. Openers. Are openers different during the day? Like say the opinion openers like "Herman changed his name to steve he's getting laid like a rock star" are these still usable for day game? Should conversation be tweaked to be less sexual/intense?

They don't have to be, but i usually like to tone down they sexual innuendo on cold approaches, But again it depends on what works best for you

hope that helps, and good luck sarging mate
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