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Author:	Technophobe [ Thu May 26, 2011 11:56 am ]
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Ok so i have read the game and gone through a few other books/podcasts. However, i still havnt got a logical structure. What do A1 C1 etc actually mean?

Author:	vaybebaybe [ Thu May 26, 2011 2:35 pm ]
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Hey, yeah, It's good that you've started to listen to a few podcasts, although, I see your trying to learn the Mystery Method. That works well, but only sometimes. I would recommend you read these two books instead, and the techniques aren't as complicated as you'd imagine. These are: The Natural Art of Seduction by Richard La Ruina, a very good book! Also, very detailed with stories in etc. and also, from a female's perspective, 15 Steps to becoming a Master Seducer by Kezia Noble. Also, very good with some stories in as well. Yeah, and as for C1 that means Rapport I think, and A1 is something like, Bait, Hook, Reel and Release. I don't know, but I hope this helps Cheers Vay

Author:	afc_gone [ Thu May 26, 2011 2:40 pm ]
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Those are phases of a man-woman relationship wich occur naturally. But I think that MM is just complicating this waaaaay to much and you'll be thinking too much if you're using thist model. What worked for me: Getting confortable with women: I took a dancing class (wich later became a little obsession of mine). I sugest that you get involved in a hoby where there are a lot of women. The hobys wich are really gay, like sawing class or something. Social confidence: Become confortable with eye contact and tuching (kino) and approaching strangers. There is no other way but to do it and it will be awkward at first. Club confidence: Get used to bitchy women and find out how to disarm them. Again there's no way but to do it and it will be a bit hard sometimes. Be yourself: (cheezy I know) with a bit of mystery and know that you are the best person there is. And make woman feel good: make them feel special and desirable. And I don't mean by getting them flowers all the time and such, but make them FEEL beautifull and sexy. Hank Moody from Californication is master at this. What products helped me: David X stuff and a friend who is really good with women.

Author:	D.O.S [ Thu May 26, 2011 2:56 pm ]
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Mystery Method worked great for when i was first getting into the game, the indirect openers protected me from rejection 9 out of 10 times, and game me the boost in confidence i needed in those way back when days, though i agree with AFC_gone that it tends to over complicate almost all aspects of pick up. I'd suggest you focus on a single task at the time. If you are shy or have a lot of AA, start by overcoming it with indirect openers, i would make mine three-part, and then pick a conversational cherry and take it from there, just talking to girls is great for experience and shyness/AA other stuff: Gambler: has an awesome body language AFC Adam Lyons: check the Under 21 convention, he is great and really entertaining Mystery: over complicated but good for guys with shyness/AA Sinn: very direct, great for people who naturally lack fear David deangelo: Cocky-Funny and push-pull works extremely well good luck sarging mate

Author:	Tremere [ Thu May 26, 2011 3:51 pm ]
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MM is a good way to you start if you really don't have skills and lack confidence to try to talk naturally. I really love Gambler's materials. They will make you feel confident in yourself (since you begin to apply) and have a good body language and confortable and natural with kino (that I consider about 80% of your game). Carlos Xuma's materials are very complete and I see it like a more philosophical material. You will learn a lot from them keeping in mind that gaming is not running on the streets kicking women around, like lots of materials around the world tells you to do. I recomend you those because I know them, and is good stuff. Don't matters if you want to be Direct, Indirect or Natural Gamer, you will find a way to all since you understand those materials.

Author:	Technophobe [ Mon May 30, 2011 12:18 pm ]
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Thankyou guys for all your great replies. I will be downloading them e-books in a bit. What i really wanted was a complete breakdown of the steps to do the mystery method. Like opening (A1) etc.

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