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Author:  Hagakure01 [ Wed May 25, 2011 8:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Is there a such thing as 2 tribal leaders?
Is there a such thing as 2 tribal leaders? Or 3, or 4 etc. ?

I mean more in social dynamics, not when out sarging with only you and your wing or whatever.
Author:  GKS [ Thu May 26, 2011 1:16 am ]
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Have you seen 2 presidents of USA or 2 kings in a country? Now there could be 2 or more candidates running for president, or many persons fighting for the throne, or even a puppet king with overpower consultant who pulls all the string. But public leadership figure always represent by one person only.
The same in seduction, now if you mean whether you can have more than 2 alpha males in the grp then the answer is yest. However, you can appear to be the most alpha male of the grp, it still doesn't mean your the leader who holds all power. People would subconsciously recognize whoever has the ability to control the frame of the whole grp their true tribal leader.
Author:  lolaskate [ Thu May 26, 2011 7:31 am ]
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Have you seen 2 presidents of USA or 2 kings in a country? Now there could be 2 or more candidates running for president, or many persons fighting for the throne, or even a puppet king with overpower consultant who pulls all the string. But public leadership figure always represent by one person only.
The same in seduction, now if you mean whether you can have more than 2 alpha males in the grp then the answer is yest. However, you can appear to be the most alpha male of the grp, it still doesn't mean your the leader who holds all power. People would subconsciously recognize whoever has the ability to control the frame of the whole grp their true tribal leader.
what he said
Author:  Obi [ Thu May 26, 2011 10:08 am ]
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Have you seen 2 presidents of USA or 2 kings in a country? Now there could be 2 or more candidates running for president, or many persons fighting for the throne, or even a puppet king with overpower consultant who pulls all the string. But public leadership figure always represent by one person only.
The same in seduction, now if you mean whether you can have more than 2 alpha males in the grp then the answer is yest. However, you can appear to be the most alpha male of the grp, it still doesn't mean your the leader who holds all power. People would subconsciously recognize whoever has the ability to control the frame of the whole grp their true tribal leader.
hmm i like this post, but what people perceive and what is actually going on are two different things.

the president might be a public figure that the whole world sees as the "alpha" of the country, but when the time comes unless the people with the true power give him permission he can't do anything about it.

for instance:

in my groups of friends there are different guys with different abilities, an example being i move the masses a lot easier than most of the others, i always am the one who befriends staff members and in turn they hook us up with discounts, free entrances /drinks, no waiting in line, i'm the one who is opens sets etc etc.

however sometimes i feel that women outside of the immediate circle perceive someone else as being the alpha. perhaps because of body language, physical differences (someone being much taller or built).

how could you fix the problem when someone else APPEARS to be more alpha when that's not the case?
Author:  Hagakure01 [ Thu May 26, 2011 12:12 pm ]
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Interesting responses and questions. So lets take one of the main DHVs - Leader of Men. In order to be a leader of men (please correct me because I'm looking for the answer here) you have to do things such as the previous poster said: move the masses. Aka organising days out, fun stuff to do, inviting everyone you know, and also being the shot caller with everything? Is there anything else that could be added to this particular DHV? And of course it is better to BE the leader of men instead of appear to be (social dynamics, not specifically out sarging)

Preselection from women is just having women wanting your attention, having women around you because they want to be all the time, those women spreading good words about you when you're not there and such? Is there anything else that can be added to this DHV?

Being Supporter and Protector of Those You Love - So in other words listening to peoples problems, offering advice, doing things to help friends problems without even asking them (not in a creepy way of course!), bigging up your friends with a positive attitude, sticking up for a friend if someone external threatens them on any level (a serious threat, not a joke obviously), and not listening to anyone external speak ill of anyone in your social circle, maintaining the well being of your friends if they need a little help here or there. All to keep and add more value to your whole tribe. Right? Is there anything else you can add to this?


Those are the 3 main attraction switches to demonstrate (so I believe) and I think it's better to BE rather than to APPEAR, or maybe it's better to do both!

Any more thoughts on all of this? And I know it may sound noob-ish but hey that's what we're here for right?
Author:  DeeDubStyle [ Thu May 26, 2011 8:13 pm ]
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In my group of friends, there is most certainly more than 1 alpha, or leader.

One of my friends is the biggest, and the most intimidating.

Another one of my friends, has a strong reality, decisive, and is an all around good guy, friends with everyone.

I think there is the occasional head butting, but other than that, there can certainly be more than one leader.
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