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Author:  goraiders [ Fri May 20, 2011 10:42 am ]
Post subject:  please help me
some background - i'm 22. i've been with a bunch of girls, some in random contexts and some in longterm relationships.
i just got out of a 1.5 year relationship which i ended and i decided to work on my game. i have a lot going for me and im not bad looking and stuff and i usually CAN get girls, but im going off to college in the fall and really want to step up my game for that.

here is my main problem. i can only play the game when im drunk! only when i drink do i get the high energies and charm that i have, and also any AA that i have obviously doesnt exist. when i have that going on, its all good. when i dont drink im more sedate and less witty/funny - you know what i mean? its hard to explain but im sure anyone who drinks can relate to this. ALL my hookups happened while i was drunk. i really want to be as good as i am drunk when i'm sober. i know this might sounds ridiculous, but its true!

another problem is that when i'm drunk its really hard for me to play the game properly (well, obviously because im drunk) - i miss iois, i dont escalate enough or i escalate too much, i dont know its just hard to analyze and think when you are.. well.. drunk.

any comments would be much much appreciated - how can i improve my normal self to be more like my drunk self?

thanks guys!
Author:  P1nkstar [ Fri May 20, 2011 11:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: please help me
Quote:
some background - i'm 22. i've been with a bunch of girls, some in random contexts and some in longterm relationships.
i just got out of a 1.5 year relationship which i ended and i decided to work on my game. i have a lot going for me and im not bad looking and stuff and i usually CAN get girls, but im going off to college in the fall and really want to step up my game for that.

here is my main problem. i can only play the game when im drunk! only when i drink do i get the high energies and charm that i have, and also any AA that i have obviously doesnt exist. when i have that going on, its all good. when i dont drink im more sedate and less witty/funny - you know what i mean? its hard to explain but im sure anyone who drinks can relate to this. ALL my hookups happened while i was drunk. i really want to be as good as i am drunk when i'm sober. i know this might sounds ridiculous, but its true!

another problem is that when i'm drunk its really hard for me to play the game properly (well, obviously because im drunk) - i miss iois, i dont escalate enough or i escalate too much, i dont know its just hard to analyze and think when you are.. well.. drunk.

any comments would be much much appreciated - how can i improve my normal self to be more like my drunk self?

thanks guys!
It's all about comfortzones, you are comfortable to close girls when you are drunk, but uncomfortable when you are not. The solution to this is simple. Just do it! failure or not. Go out and try the same not drinking. It's hard... but it's the only way you will learn. Pushing those comfortzones will eventually make it natural for you!
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Fri May 20, 2011 11:21 am ]
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.. actually when i started out i didn't drink , because i did daygame first in shops and streets , daygame keeps you away from those nasty influences.

Anyway yes ... i did go out on my own... it's about 5 or 4 years ago i think , i was AA TO DEATH.... i couldn't even talk to dudes let alone WOMAN.

yes i did drink... however my tolerance of alcohol became stronger and i needed more , you cannot go out and drink a minimum 10 beers to get rid of your AA especially if you go out 3 or 4 times a week. I like martial arts and i knew my physical health would decrease over time, so to me it wasn't worth it.

Alcohol and other substances do not decrease your AA... your AA is still there but you don't feel it. When you go out clean and sober you have a chance to seriously deal with your AA, alcohol just takes away the choice if doing so.
That does not mean i experience AA , i really have strong AA however it's only the first 2 minutes. After those 2 minutes im having fun and i don't care anymore .

Sometimes i do drink ... i stick to 1 or 2 beers. I have 1 drinking night every month - but im not really picking up woman when im on drinking night, it's more to relax and look back on goals i've achieved.
anyway i've not been out much lately ... and if you don't do your approaching your AA will increase over time. However my experience and skill keep me from fucking up my approaching even when i have AA , you need to trust yourself.

the problem with you is that you think you can only game when your drunk which is a limiting belief.... you can get into a good state without alcohol. You either get rejected alot which make you immune to bad states and rejections - which will give you confidence OR you will get better , you just need to stick at it - there is not magic pill. The only shortcut is to approach and do it , all the hookups you make when your drunk could be bad people - with your brain bathing in alcohol your judgement is impaired.

Some people i hooked up with when being drunk are not the best kind of people but this is something i've found out later after having sex. Founding out only to have pick up a drama queen. One of my biggest strengths is knowing what people think and seeing throught them - how they really are , alcohol was just weakening this trait. People take drugs when they have anxiety , anxiety is the first reason they cling to substances in the first place. il bet there are even guys WHO NEED TO APPROACH because they fear the emotion of not doing so.

anyway alcohol is no good for gaming , i only use it for my enjoyment only - just to get into my own world to relax. Using alcohol in gaming only made things worse by stalling inner game improvement , picking up bad people , having condomless sex because i was too wasted , saying stupid shit to people like ''whore '' and '' you need to fuck my dog tonight'' ( quitte funny but really retarded LOL ), a deterioirating lifestyle during daytime because of the hangovers, bad financial situations because going out for 4 times every week and drinking each time does empty your bank account - i might as paid girls to be nice to me so i can lose my AA, would be much cheaper as well.

THERE IS A EASY WAY .. THATS APPROACHING ... it just amazes me how guys come up with all these scientific models why not to approach while the easiest thing is to approach. Woman get even more rejected than you ... they give ALOT of ioi and most men are just afraid and don't approach them .... that's also rejection. Woman are not out to get you , actually the first approaches i did 5 years ago were pretty good - woman reacted nice. There is just a part of your brain causing this shit , it has nothing to do with REAL spiritual anxiety - evolution is a bitch and should be blamed for giving us these brain parts. You just feel real pain when you feel AA nothing more , you just need to ignore the pain.

just fucknig do it... you have no idea how the approach goes until you do it.
if you are going in natural while having AA it's better to use canned material , being natural is thriving on a good state. If you are not in state it's just better to use canned material which you've used 100 times before - it takes away the tension of ''how to open a conversation'' so you can focus on the interaction itself.

another reason to not pickup woman while being drunk is that they get to know your DRUNK personality, once they are attracted to this personality CHANCES are high she will lose attraction when you return to your normal state. I don't act like a playboy because that's not who i am in real life - i want a girl to be attracted to my real character otherwise it's impossible to have a good relationship.

sorry for my bad grammar because im drunk right now .... LOL joking
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