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Author:  Cash999 [ Sun May 15, 2011 7:42 am ]
Post subject:  Going Day-Sarging Later Today, Need Tips
Hey guys, I'm gonna go practice my day game later today in a shopping centre, any tips or advice?

Thanks
Author:  vaybebaybe [ Sun May 15, 2011 11:34 am ]
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Hey,

I am sarging today as well, but in a train. But I suppose it's sort of similar, because you have a time constraint to make something happen in the interaction and so do I.

Basically, what I think you should do, is to open with an indirect opener, for example,

"Do you know where the nearest Starbucks is?"

Then they'll give you the directions of how to get there. After they do that. You then have to quickly come up with something either, situation ally, or when they hesitate to give you directions because they are trying to think of how to get there.

Just say to them,

"Ah, are you off there too?, I mean it'd be great if you joined me on your lunch break".

After this simple line, just say, so when can we arrange this? (Whilst asking, get your phone out and say, yeah, so what's your name whilst typing it down on the phone, and hand the phone to her to get her number).

And then, I am sure she'll be very hesitant and probably say, "Why do you want my number?" then just say back to her "So we arrange to meet up and get to know each other".

I don't know, but this is an improvised line that I have come up with on the spot. Actually this'll work, because she's in a rush, and if you have strong body language and smile, as well as keep strong eye contact, then I think she'll give in.

I hope this helps.

Cheers
:)
Vay
Author:  Cash999 [ Sun May 15, 2011 4:33 pm ]
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Hey dude, I did use an opener about directions to a store, and I got the directions along with a huge smile... but I froze afterward and had to eject.

Read about it here aha:

first-ever-day-sarge-report-vt91657.html?highlight=
Author:  F l a s h [ Sun May 15, 2011 5:22 pm ]
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@vaybebaybe

That has flaws, don't rush into a date or bounce that close to opening. Would you wonder off with a stranger for lunch who'd only spoken to you for 2 minutes? Build attraction/Comfort first.
Author:  chill46 [ Sun May 15, 2011 5:54 pm ]
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Quote:
Hey,

I am sarging today as well, but in a train. But I suppose it's sort of similar, because you have a time constraint to make something happen in the interaction and so do I.

Basically, what I think you should do, is to open with an indirect opener, for example,

"Do you know where the nearest Starbucks is?"

Then they'll give you the directions of how to get there. After they do that. You then have to quickly come up with something either, situation ally, or when they hesitate to give you directions because they are trying to think of how to get there.

Just say to them,

"Ah, are you off there too?, I mean it'd be great if you joined me on your lunch break".

After this simple line, just say, so when can we arrange this? (Whilst asking, get your phone out and say, yeah, so what's your name whilst typing it down on the phone, and hand the phone to her to get her number).

And then, I am sure she'll be very hesitant and probably say, "Why do you want my number?" then just say back to her "So we arrange to meet up and get to know each other".

I don't know, but this is an improvised line that I have come up with on the spot. Actually this'll work, because she's in a rush, and if you have strong body language and smile, as well as keep strong eye contact, then I think she'll give in.

I hope this helps.

Cheers
:)
Vay
I dont mind opening indirect, but after i open indirect I will immediately transition to direct. This also sets the frame that I want. And i can transition to direct no matter what indirect opener i use. So heres how it would go using my style.

Run up to her tap her on the elbow (to get attention and know I am talking to her) and then step in front of her so she knows to stop. If the girl is stationary you can walk up with strong eye contact say hi and then open. Either way you want her to be stationary and listening to you

So in this i would open with "Hi, excuse me, I know this might be a bit random, but could you tell me where the nearest starbucks is?" ( indirect). she responds with whatever. either she gives directions or she doesnt know. So I transition directly with this

"I actually know where the nearest starbucks is. I just used that as a excuse to come talk to you because I thought you were cute. I had to see if you were friendly as well. Whats your name?" (direct)

and from here you want to transition into conversation. Dont do the normal AFC questions like "What do you do?" "Where are you from?" "What are you up to?". anytime you think of asking a question like this, turn it into a statement. Like you look like the type of girl from Nigeria (when she is obv white). Find out a bit about her. If she is the type of girl you would want to get involved with.

then go for the close. set up the next meeting while your still in set. it will reduce the amount of flakes you get. In your ex you go opening indirectly straight to going for the close. And even if you get the number, she will mostly backwards rationalize it later and be like "I hardly even know this guy" and prob flake on the meeting.

I have had closes where i got the number within 2 mins of starting the interaction, but i can say numbers dont mean shit cuz the flake rate off those numbers is higher. imo the first interaction's goal isnt " how do i get this girls number?" For me personally its more like "how do i get this girl to want to meet up with me again?" The number is just a way to meet up later
Author:  chill46 [ Sun May 15, 2011 5:57 pm ]
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Hey dude, I did use an opener about directions to a store, and I got the directions along with a huge smile... but I froze afterward and had to eject.

Read about it here aha:

first-ever-day-sarge-report-vt91657.html?highlight=
You froze cuz you didnt know what to say next? She knows you like her so tell her. If you were after directions you could have asked the ugly old guy in the corner.
Author:  Cash999 [ Sun May 15, 2011 5:59 pm ]
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Hey dude, I did use an opener about directions to a store, and I got the directions along with a huge smile... but I froze afterward and had to eject.

Read about it here aha:

first-ever-day-sarge-report-vt91657.html?highlight=
You froze cuz you didnt know what to say next? She knows you like her so tell her. If you were after directions you could have asked the ugly old guy in the corner.
The thing is I would have had no problem moving to the next stage of conversation and eventually telling her I liked her, had her friend not come over and joined us. I genuinely thought it was going great because she was alone and she was real friendly, using the smile as an IOI... I just can't handle 2 sets yet, because I'm a beginner and I need someone to help me out. Not just through written text, but to come with me and help.
Author:  chill46 [ Sun May 15, 2011 6:15 pm ]
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Hey dude, I did use an opener about directions to a store, and I got the directions along with a huge smile... but I froze afterward and had to eject.

Read about it here aha:

first-ever-day-sarge-report-vt91657.html?highlight=
You froze cuz you didnt know what to say next? She knows you like her so tell her. If you were after directions you could have asked the ugly old guy in the corner.
The thing is I would have had no problem moving to the next stage of conversation and eventually telling her I liked her, had her friend not come over and joined us. I genuinely thought it was going great because she was alone and she was real friendly, using the smile as an IOI... I just can't handle 2 sets yet, because I'm a beginner and I need someone to help me out. Not just through written text, but to come with me and help.
Well there is a difference b/w a 2 set and a 1 set that becomes a 2 set. if you approach a girl thats alone, you can't control if a friend or friends come over. and increase the set size. What you can control however is how you respond to it.

What you want to do is befriend her friend. She comes over in to the set.

"introduce me to your friend, its the polite thing to do."
her: oh this is my friend blah blah

use the friend to your advantage. i will make assumptions on both of them.
" you look like the ballsy one of the group and to the other one you look like the more reserved one of the group" have a bit of a chat with them, but remember why you are in the set in the first place.

You want to get to know your target better. So dont get too caught up with the friend. It just takes a bit of social calibration and the only way to get better at it is to go out and and get first hand experience
Author:  Cash999 [ Sun May 15, 2011 6:23 pm ]
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Hmm it's difficult to say "introduce me to your friend" when you don't even know the name of the target yet though... but at the same time everything you have said is sound advice, and i'll remember to follow it next time this situation occurs. I'm planning on doing another day sarge next Saturday during the day, but again I imagine my confidence levels will still be the same and I'll only be able to approach lone individuals.

However, determination is the factor I possess that a lot of people do not. I'm gonna keep going out and doing this, be it alone or not... until I get better. And even if I just get one approach again the next time I go out, one a day is better than coming home with nothing.

My main goal with this entire project at the moment is number-closing leading to dating, as I'm quite a deep guy who pretty much only enjoys relationships but at the same time isn't one of those soppy messes (which I can't stand :|)

The difference is for the past 19 years I have always settled for what I can get, and when a girl showed interest I would find her more attractive than she actually is just because she's showing me interest. I'm determined to change, and go after what I want, rather than what is on the table. I DESERVE a HB8 at least, and that's what I'm gonna get.
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