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Author:  ALSK1001 [ Sun May 08, 2011 10:51 pm ]
Post subject:  How to react when a girl is not fully present
This has happened to me several times with girls I just met(usually in a cafe), but not on the actual dates. Coincidentally they were all very receptive but during the conversation they would use their phone (once it was Ipad LOL) more than needed. I know some girls are nice and they try to blow you off with signals and by not paying attention on, but in majority of the cases I described this was not the case. How do you react? Is this a shit test? Thanks
Author:  Imar [ Sun May 08, 2011 10:55 pm ]
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Be more direct. No small talk. You can do small talk later. 100% success.
Author:  quickquestion [ Sun May 08, 2011 11:01 pm ]
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I say 'show some respect when youre talking with a person, playing with your phone is rude, havent they taught you that" or something in this sence, ofcourse in a playful manner and with a smile, not " :x ". they usually smile and stop. if they dont, they dont really care about your company and you are invisible to them (at that moment, not necessarily in general) so u can try and do something that can grab her attention. if shes still stuck to her blackberry then shes rly dumb and u can leave lol

thats just my opinion
Author:  ALSK1001 [ Sun May 08, 2011 11:08 pm ]
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I once used "what's the matter, are you addicted to your phone?" and it worked ok. On the one hand I hand I think it's important to make it clear from the start that you will not put up with her shit and "punish" her for bad behavior but on the other hand you're still showing reaction, which is not what Alpha Male would do, he would just not care. As with other shit tests, you can always ignore. So I'm a little confused.
Author:  quickquestion [ Sun May 08, 2011 11:14 pm ]
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I once used "what's the matter, are you addicted to your phone?" and it worked ok. On the one hand I hand I think it's important to make it clear from the start that you will not put up with her shit and "punish" her for bad behavior but on the other hand you're still showing reaction, which is not what Alpha Male would do, he would just not care. As with other shit tests, you can always ignore. So I'm a little confused.
i know, its confusing for me too, but i imagine an alpha would be more like "hey what do you think youre doing" if its only 1 on 1
if there are other people around then the alpha would turn back and talk to someone else instead of insist on _her_ attention

so thats like 2 completely different reactions from the same guy in different situations

correct me if im wrong
Author:  Imar [ Sun May 08, 2011 11:24 pm ]
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Well, in my opinion it's not alpha. It's a defensive reaction. "Please notice me, you are being rude".

Just state your purpose why you are engaging that talk. She'll appreciate the honesty. Pretty much always. And you have her full attention. If she is having a bf, she'll tell you right away. If not, you can have the normal talk. You also avoid most of the bs tests.
Author:  quickquestion [ Sun May 08, 2011 11:29 pm ]
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maybe it depends on HOW you say it
if you ask her "why are you on the phone and now talking to me" can also sound lowly

if you pull out your phone and start playing with it she wont do anything

i need more detail on the situation. if its the first time you see her and - lets say, sit next to her, and she typing on the phone - then that shouldnt worry you because she doesnt know you yet and has no reason to be attracted to you

if you two know each other and shes on the phone, then the phone is more interesting than you so you have to do something cocky/funny to get her attention..... i suppose
Author:  Imar [ Sun May 08, 2011 11:33 pm ]
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And why are you going to be cocky/funny? To grab her attention. If you just tell directly:"Girl, I can't seduce you when you are busy on your phone." She will react, you will engage, and you created the complete frame why you are talking to her. And you took initiative, you are completely in control. Alpha in a mature, direct way. Without being defensive or crancky.
Author:  quickquestion [ Sun May 08, 2011 11:37 pm ]
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if it was only that easy...

and if you tell her 'i cant seduce u when youre on the phone' she'll be 'ok, show me what u got' and you two are just standing there, shes waiting for your line and you are trying to remember your routines that youve learnt by heart

i dont know.... dunno what to do
but in any case: DONT start asking her questions to get her off the phone, itll be like an interview and thats stupid
Author:  ALSK1001 [ Sun May 08, 2011 11:43 pm ]
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Thank you for your input guys. As far as the direct approach, I'm not really a big fan especially in the day game. In my experience most of the HB8+ will instantly blow you away. I more prefer the Mystery Method-like approaches, so still a little confused about this situation :D
Author:  Imar [ Sun May 08, 2011 11:44 pm ]
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Well, my method is very direct, so you'll need to endure the first minute. But it's field tested a number of times. To be honest, I do not know what I'm going to say after that line, it depends on the woman. If you want to remember a routine, what about "Well, I first want to make sure if you can handle it." After that minute, I honestly can say you'll be able to use your normal routines. Because the situation is under your control. It's like poker: you bluff your way out, the other player folds. Only very stupid players do not fold. You just gave the signal that you know the rules of the game, and she will accept your honesty.

*edit* Especially HB8-10's will not blow you away. They will blow you away when you are not giving the signal that you know what you are doing. My method will scare of very insecure women.
Author:  Mack 2.0 [ Mon May 09, 2011 1:09 am ]
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ok.

wanna know what i would do?

escalate or walk away.

i wouldn't get pissed. i ALSO wouldn't say a word, or sit there and wait, or try to converse with someone who was ignoring me.

if she didn't respond to escalation, i would...walk away.

then let her chase me if she wanted to, to find out "hey, why did you do that?"

at which point, i would respond "you seem like a really interesting/pretty/fun girl or whatever, but i don't compete with cellphones for attention"

i would move on to one of the other 3.599.999.999 women out there, hoping that one of them would be smart enough not to text while i was talking to her.
Author:  GeorgeLC [ Mon May 09, 2011 2:35 pm ]
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So here's how I handle this type of situation:

Me : " bla bla bla" [ then notice that she isn't paying attention, playing with the phone or whatever ].
I would continue the story and slowly transition it to something sexual that would involve her, something along the lines of " ... oh, and after a hard days work I'd like nothing more than to calm home, grab you, throw you into bed, put a blind fold on your eyes, tie your hands ..." . Keep it up she'll notice it pretty fast and be like WTF ?
After which I would say sorry but you were not paying attention and give a cocky smile :)
Also good after that you can transition to a fantasy relationship of you two.
Author:  ALSK1001 [ Mon May 09, 2011 2:43 pm ]
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Nice on George :) But it would be kind of hard to pull that one off with HB9+. Mack, walking away from someone you just met means you've pretty much lost her(you didn't have a chance to build enough attraction + she doesn't have your number, etc) and that you actually got pissed. It may just seem too bitter IMO.
Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Mon May 09, 2011 2:52 pm ]
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Be more direct. No small talk. You can do small talk later. 100% success.
Yup!

If you go in direct, create a big emotional spike, spend 2-3 minutes getting to know some basics, and having a bit of banter, all with consistent sexual intent there, it's unlikely she'll be distracted by much. Don't give her the time or the reason to. If she's looking bored, maybe you're being boring? No need to stick around too long trying to build comfort, you can do that on the date once you've got her number.
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