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Author:  FFSthisishard [ Tue May 03, 2011 5:20 am ]
Post subject:  going out for first time after getting training, tips?
OK so I am a decent looking guy, tall and muscular with little game. But I have learned alot, about direct, indirect, escalating kino and trying to advance to the emotional progression model quickly.

Here is my opinion opener, I am going to say i have a friend who is 26 and hes dating a 33 year old divorce girl with two kids. He left to go to the west coast to see his friend for 5 days, while he was gone, she was seen driving her ex's car for four straight days. Should I tell him or should i not?

The reason i use this opener is because its real and actually happened, and it tends to get girls talking. I used it once on a hottie but then i failed to actually transition. which i plan on using some sort of observational transition.



some one my questions:

When I open a 2 set and a three set, should I address the target or her friends first?

When should i bail out on a set?

and lastly, What is a good story to tell that is DHV
Author:  squarelife [ Tue May 03, 2011 5:42 am ]
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Well it definitely looks like you have all of your thoughts together, which is good.

Opening is Key and will set the model for how your conversation will continue. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with getting an opener together before hand, especially for those who aren't too good with coming up with situational openers on the spot.

Your Opener is a little bit lengthy (theres some pretty good detail to it) so you really need to spice up the story with some animation in order to keep her interested..Remember, your delivery is much more important than the actual opener itself.

You're also very right, a solid delivery of this opener should definitely get her talking. There are so many contributing factors to your story, and she will most likely address each detail of it

When opening a set with two or three girls, you need to address ALL of them. More than likely, the other girls are her friends and you need to set an excellent impression for them. Women rely very closely to the opinions and advice of their friends....and if the friends dont like you...then sorry, cause they'll infect her head with all the reasons she should NEVER talk to you again.

Once you have opened the set and addressed everyone, THEN you can begin to single her out...kino, teasing, and of course the famous line all guys ask her friends "is she always like this?" lol.

As far as bailing...bail whenever you want to. If the girls are seriously being bitches and shutting you out or the vibe is just off..then just dip out. create a false time constraint and get the hell out of there.

As far as DHV stories go, im probably not the best guy to answer that...Only because i never tell DHV stories "intentionally". I think if you can tell a really good story in general and show your social awareness, then thats a DHV all by itself.


May your following days be the best of your life.

Always


SquareLife
Author:  Fireball [ Tue May 03, 2011 6:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: going out for first time after getting training, tips?
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When I open a 2 set and a three set, should I address the target or her friends first?
Address the group. Keep the attention of individual members of the group. As Style says, everybody's attention to you is like a small fire that you have to add some wood to when it's dying out. So if one person is fading out, looking around, you bring them back by pointing at them, asking them to pay attention, calling their name, commenting on something they're wearing, etc.
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When should i bail out on a set?
Whenever you like. If you want to get better, you should stay as long as possible, i.e. until they leave or they ask you to leave several times. But go in, as Mystery says, the field has the answers you seek.
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and lastly, What is a good story to tell that is DHV
A good DHV story should aim to hit these points:
1. Leader of men
2. Protector of loved ones
3. Preselection by women
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