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Author:  Buttonz [ Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:40 am ]
Post subject:  Tried an opener that didnt go as planned. any tips?
I'm pretty new to this, so it takes alot for me to prove that i got a pair and go and talk to girls.

Anyways I was at a bar and I went up to a group of girls with a smile on. It was loud so I tried to talk to one only:

Me: hey can i get ur opinion on something?
girl1: what?? beer?
Me: no can I get ur opinion on something?
then she pulls her friend to talk to me instead for some reason which I thought was rude. Any ideas why this happened besides miscommunication?
Me: can i ask u something
girl2: sure
me: my buddies are down stairs acting moppy, should i try to get them to have fun, or just let them go home?
girl2: if they come up here they have fun
Me: how so?
girl2: more ppl music, theres nothing down stairs
Me: true but I think they'd need to be convinced a little more, if u were trying to convince a friend of urs how would u do it
girl2: Id tell them to come up
Me: well ur friends seem to be easier then mine

see turned to her friend quick for some reason, but when she turned back i had nothing else to say, so i said thx for the advise but i gotta go. pretty much went home after.

What would you guys have done? and where did I go wrong?
Author:  Bloke [ Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:13 am ]
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Sounds alrite but dont put so much emphasis on the openener. Once she's talking have your next conversation topic/ statement ready
Author:  Che Guevara [ Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:29 am ]
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About the first girl that didn't want to talk to you, you shouldn't worry about it at all, there can be a lot of reasons for this to happen, none of them are because of you. Anyway it doesn't sound like there was something wrong with your approach.

I think that in such an early stage of the set it can be very hard to talk to only one girl, she might feel too uncomfortable, like you are taking her from her friends. So I would say something that is related to the whole group and can get them in the conversation, like "how do u know each other" or "what brought u out tonight".
Author:  Mr.Spunky [ Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:33 am ]
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I would have gone, "oh geez you read my mind that's pretty scary", once she said beer. and gone from there,
Author:  Tiger6Niner [ Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:37 am ]
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i would have asked for the first girls opinion on beer. repeating yourself the way you did looks unnatural and like the lines were rehearsed
Author:  Taiger12 [ Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:41 pm ]
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The part where you have trouble brining your friends up is kind of a DLV since your are NOT the leader of your group, try changning that part. and trust me, the best thing you can do is find an opener that works nicely and use it all the time, and ofcourse you can keep a few backups but i have a favorite one because since iv used it so many times i know EXACTLY what type of responses the girls will give and i know what i will say in return to gain value and etc. Im usually natural but some canned stuff is also always nice on the side. Its like a loaded gun that you can pull up and fire at your target whenever you feel like you want to up the chemistry :twisted:

keep gaming ;)!
Author:  Chris2k10 [ Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:34 pm ]
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That's the bullshit way of doing it. I would just straight up say "Hey you're cute so I just wanted to talk to you." WHILE touching her on the shoulder.
Author:  PLYR [ Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:47 pm ]
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THe bit at the end when you say her friends are easy.....
Thats not good

try not to say that haha

and the girls at the start either didnt understand or is a b****
Author:  FBDragon [ Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:52 am ]
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Instead of saying "hey can I get your opinion on something?" say "Hey, I need an opinion on something". When you say "can I" you're basically saying "do you have the time" whereas if you demand you're assuming she will give you an opinion. Once you have her attention, then you ask for the opinion.
Author:  0uch [ Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:36 am ]
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First, don't ask. Just go "Gotta get your opinion, then I gotta get back to me friends, Then your opinion opener."

2nd, when they say they can't hear me, I act like is there fault and say "Need a Qtip" So don't act like is your fault. Also, I am sure You leaned in so don't lean in. Lean back and they should lean in to you. If not, just project louder but do not lean in.

3rd, if your using indirect game, you need to be social. So if you gotta get walk past other sets to get to them, your game is blown. At this point, your better off just opening with something like "Hey" then running game.

4th, Don't use openers that DLV your friends that are with you. Your bringing the party. If your sets goes well, chances are your gonna be introducing them to your friends, so you need to DHV your friends.
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