Quote: Hey guys I have no question that pua tactics work but how many people actually get results after a number close.
So many puas I see and hear about actually have very low close rates most close about as much as any other guy. I mean really 2 girls going out with you a week could really be achieved by any old dude that approached as many people as what alot of people in this forum do.
Another example is Owen Cook AKA Tyler Durden who has had one actual girlfriend since he started doing pickup like 10 years ago I mean really is this the success we are talking about..................
Also not trying to pick on tyler or anything he knows his shit but there is a HUGE lack of videos of him in field 
In general, your results come down to how much effort and time you are willing to put in to improve all the aspects that are currently holding you back from achieving the kind of success with women you desire, whether than be a long term girlfriend, multiple relationships, a string of one night stands, or whatever. No one DVD or bootcamp is going to solve that for you overnight, although some are better than others.
The important thing to realise is, there is no method, and no PUA, that can guarantee you a rejectionless approach, a flakeless numberclose, and a surefire f-close method for a day 2. Nobody has a 100% success rate at ANYTHING, and it would be lying and deceiving to say anything else.
The difference between the average guy and a good PUA, in my opinion, is how they DEAL with the inevitable rejection. Most guys, whatever they say, take it quite personally, get hurt and offended, and lose their "state." Me personally, and the guys I work with, we LOVE rejection and use it as a way to have fun and get IN state. I'm always looking for really difficult situations, or dong intentionally crazy stuff, knowing there's a 99% chance for a horrific blowout. Why? Because I'm having FUN doing it, and I'm completely detached from the outcome. I just don't care what people think! If they like me and find me fun, then great, let's hang out. If not, then that's ok too - they can leave and I have a funny story to tell!
As for results - it depends on what you're looking for. Me personally, I have 2 regular girls I see once or twice a week, and then about 3-4 girls I'm working on, and then I add another couple in every week, so I'm going on about 2-4 dates a week. That's about as much as I can manage, and it's the kind of setup I've been looking for - having a proper relationship with some girls and seeing them for a long time, and adding in new girls all the time. It's taken me 3-4 years to get to that level, but I'm happy with my progress and don't really need much more out of my dating life.
That said, my "success" rate from open to n-close is probably about 30-40%, and of those another 50% flake, so realistically I'm looking at a rate of open->day2 of about 15-20%. Of those, I end up having sex with probably 50-75%, so really open->f-close my success rate is maybe about 7-12%, and to be honest I'm perfectly happy with that. Every step of the way is another opportunity for me to filter girls who are not that interested, or with whom I don't share any chemistry. I don't consider the other 93-88% "failure," because I'm not actively trying to impress them, I'm just getting to know them and see if we "click" or not.
Depending on what you want, it could be different. The important thing is - don't worry about what others are doing. Judge your current progress against yourself, and just see whether YOU are improving, and whether you're getting closer to YOUR goals.
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