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Author:  Nick_PUA [ Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Took HB 9 out twice, then it went downhill, what happened?
Hi guys,

Been on the forum for a while but haven't posted much. I'm trying to change my average ways and become more like you guys. I really need your help and advice on this. I need to know what went wrong. I'm sure I made a lot of errors but I can't figure this out.

About a month ago (5th March) I was out at a club when a HB9 came up to me and asked me to hold her drink and take a photo of her friend and her. I said I've got a drink in my hand so I can't but my mate will do it. My friend takes the picture and then I start talking to the HB9. Eventually we start dancing, taking pictures etc and she is grinding on me. About half an hour to an hour later, after we've got some drinks and been chatting, I kiss closed her. I felt really confident that night and it paid off, I got her number, her BBM and a kiss close so felt good about myself.

Wake up the next morning and she has text me, asking me if I had a good night etc. Eventually we start communicating via BBM and we messaged each other pretty regularly for the next few days before I actually called her up and spoke to her on the phone.

Then she started calling me quite a bit, she called me at lunchtimes etc and I arranged a date with her for the upcoming Tuesday (10 days after we met in the club, 15th March). Originally we were going to go out on the Friday but she had to cancel, she called me up to apologise and said can we rearrange so we did for the Tuesday.

Anyway, I took her out on the Tuesday, we went for some drinks in a lovely pub near her house. We chatted away, I held good eye contact, listened to what she had to say and we had great chemistry. She had been bugging me all week to sing to her on the date (I do a bit of singing here and there, at parties etc), so when we got back into the car I sang for her. When I finished she said that was amazing and she kissed me on the cheek. I went for the kiss close and was successful, we made out 4/5 times before I dropped her off home.

She messaged me that night to say she had a great time and would like to see me again. She also said I'm a great kisser so that was good! After that she was calling me everyday. She would call me in the mornings before she went in to her office aswell as in the evenings on her way home and sometimes at lunch or night. We were going to go out again on Monday (21st March) but on the Sunday she had to cancel as she had to collect her Dad from the hospital (Which is definitely true). I said it's OK I understand we'll sort something out for another time. So we eventually go out again on the following Sunday (27th March) and go for some dinner and drinks at a great little place. Again, conversation is flowing, there is plenty of kino, lots of sexual references and innuendo's and after the date again we make out for a while in my car and I make 2nd base. During the date she says her friends will love me as I'm like the nicest guy she's ever gone out with. She also says her Mum will like me as I am very clever and she likes clever people. HB9 arranges to go out with me on the upcoming Friday (1st April) to a bar so I agree. She also sends me a sexy pic of her.

The next day, she phones up in the morning as usual, then again in the evening. She says sorry to do this to me but her friend has given her a ticket to a concert for the Friday, is it OK if she goes? I say it's no problem, we'll just sort something for another time. So, on the Tuesday, she calls me in the morning as usual, I say I'll give her a call later or something, she agrees and says see you later. I try to call her at lunchtime but she doesn't answer. She msges me a couple of hours later saying work is chaos they have the auditors in. I say I know what that's like, just give me a call later. She doesn't call me that evening at all.

On Wednesday morning though, she rings me up as usual, says work was horrible yesterday etc. We speak as usual and then I say I'll give her a call later. I'm manic at work, really busy so I don't get a chance to call her until the evening. In the meantime she has set her status to "Men...Better best forgotten!" but I have no idea if that's about me or someone else. I try to call her but she doesn't answer. Later that evening I just send a BBM saying hi and hope she's had a good day etc. She doesn't come back to me. So the next day (Thursday 31st March) she doesn't call me in the morning, her status is something about having an argument at 7am in the morning. She doesn't msge or call me all day Thursday so in the evening, around 7pm I send a txt saying
"Hey, is everything ok I haven't heard from you in a bit, what's up? x"
She sends back this
"Hi, sorry about that. Everything was just moving too quick and I'm not ready to get serious with anyone at the mo. I just wanna be friends. Sorry if I led you on x"
I go back to her and say
"I'm bit disappointed thought it was going well but fair enough. You have my number, wish you all the best x"


And that's it. She hasn't come back to me. All of a sudden, out of the blue, she stopped calling me and sent me that txt message back. I don't get it, she was the one calling ME all the time, even in the mornings! She mentioned her friends/mum loving me etc and said she "loved the way I hold her face when I kiss her".

Anyone have any explanation or theories behind this? I'm baffled and it's really knocked my confidence. Is there anything I can do to salvage this at all? Or is just a case of move on and perhaps in the future she'll call?

Please help, I'm really lost at the moment.
Author:  Nick_PUA [ Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:02 pm ]
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Any ideas? I'm completely baffled and it's knocked my confidence.
Author:  kenstheman01 [ Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:20 pm ]
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be careful about onitus, go find other girls and let this will come back to you eventually
Author:  Nick_PUA [ Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:29 pm ]
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be careful about onitus, go find other girls and let this will come back to you eventually
Yeah I'm trying to be careful about that. I'm moving on to other girls etc. Just wondered if anyone had any ideas as to WTF happened here? I don't get it.

Do you think she will get back in touch with me?
Author:  Sixpounder [ Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:06 pm ]
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I'm not really sure what to make of this either. There are a couple of things I found interesting though:
- Every time you arranged to go out, she cancelled and rescheduled, other than the final time when she seems to have cut you out completely. You also accepted her rescheduling without any issues, you didn't mention ever telling her that you were unavailable.
- She began calling you every morning, despite having only seen you once at that point. It is a bit quick.
- She introduced you to her mum very quickly as well.

It sounds to me as though she's very temperamental and a little bit crazy... Maybe I'm wrong but it's a very odd story to my mind. I suspect if you just wait it out and ignore her, she'll get in contact with you again but do you really want to be with her?
Author:  Byzantine [ Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:20 pm ]
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The whole thing was a test for you both, she unconsciously wanted to see how much was too much for you and you just went along with everything, you didnt set any boundaries. How many times did she flake on you? And you just kept your head down.

The best time to talk about parents, her friends and how lovely of a boyfriend figure you might be is AFTER you fucked her doggy style while slapping her ass, came on her tits and wiped some on her face, THEN you can show as much weakness as you want and it wont matter, but you didn't set up for sex to happen.

The girl is not responsible for setting up the right environment for sex, you are, she KNOWS what youre up to. Most girls I've slept with have said to me with a naughty grin on their face "I knew something was going down!" They KNOW but you must WANT it bad enough to make it happen.

2nd base is NOT sexual, damn I dont even consider a handjob sexual, I think handjobs are offensive.

Think about how you feel right now...embrace it and REMEMBER this next time you want to fuck a girl you cant play with her rules until after you fuck her, this is the biggest problem with us, we dont realize its already too late to fuck her, she doesnt want it anymore, the moment she wants your cock the most is right when you met her and she smiled for the first time.

Good progress regardless dude, you're right on track!
Best Luck
Author:  Nick_PUA [ Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:00 pm ]
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I'm not really sure what to make of this either. There are a couple of things I found interesting though:
- Every time you arranged to go out, she cancelled and rescheduled, other than the final time when she seems to have cut you out completely. You also accepted her rescheduling without any issues, you didn't mention ever telling her that you were unavailable.
- She began calling you every morning, despite having only seen you once at that point. It is a bit quick.
- She introduced you to her mum very quickly as well.

It sounds to me as though she's very temperamental and a little bit crazy... Maybe I'm wrong but it's a very odd story to my mind. I suspect if you just wait it out and ignore her, she'll get in contact with you again but do you really want to be with her?
I didn't actually meet her mum, she just kept mentioning me meeting her.

It's weird mate, I'm really confused by it.

If she contacts me again, I just wanna fuck her now, she hurt me, so I want revenge PUA style.
Author:  Dimple [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:32 am ]
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I think that she may have been more interested in the bad boys. when she commented on you being a nice guy that all her friends and family like, it was her way of trying to be with the right person and do the right thing.

she sounds like she likes being in dramatic relationships. she likes bad boys.

The best way to keep her interested is to show her that you are mysterious, tell stories but miss the ending and make it appear as if the ending is too crazy for her ears, let her imagination create the endings. although it seems you may be too late with this particular girl.

any ways that's what id do lol

take it easy
Author:  Nick_PUA [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:05 pm ]
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What's really driven me crazy with this one is the fact that after our 2nd date, she was still calling me like normal the day after, the day after that she still called me in the morning and the day before she sent that txt she called me as normal too!
Author:  Captain Morgan [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:49 pm ]
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Seriously? No one sees the fact that she was seeing someone else and probably was even in a relationship, which is why she canceled...FOR HIM...like you were waiting on her, she was waiting on whoever this guy was...hence, the comment about men being whatever she said....

I hate to say this, man, but she was basically butt hurt by some guy, getting her attention from you to make herself feel better, and then either this guy gave her what she wanted and she cut it off with you to go back to him, or she just gave up on everything and found a new guy altogether...

As you read in other posts of mine...GIRLS ARE SHADY! Very good at manipulation...


This is just my take on it after reading your details! You were definitely the nice guy...a girl cancels on me more than once...peace out...hold the frame or she thinks she can keep doing it...no matter how many time she apologizes...
Author:  Nick_PUA [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:54 pm ]
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Pretty sure she's not in a relationship at the moment.

Just from various things, FB, BBM, also from other couple of signs, statuses etc.


The other day her status was "Been without that prick a year today" with a big smiley and she mentioned to me when I was with her that she broke up with her dick boyfriend nearly a year ago.
Author:  Captain Morgan [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:16 pm ]
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I am not saying it was just a boyfriend...but it seems to me she is definitely seeing someone else...there would be no reason to make the men comment and then all the sudden say, "I need to be friends"...doesn't add up...I am stickin to it...lol Girls are shaddddddddyyy. At the very least, she was using you for attention she wanted...not saying she didn't like you at all, but it was more about her.
Author:  Melodical [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:21 pm ]
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The attraction was there at first then it faded. The reasons are you did something which killed it (being needy or not setting boundaries) or something you didn't do (like escalating) It's the bit about her saying you were a "nice" guy which jars for me.
HB9's have thousands of nice guy admirers to choose from it does nothing for them.

If you want attraction from an HB9+ you MUST be challenging to them.
If she mentions you being "nice" again then reply "you won't say that when I'm dragging you round the bed by your hair" The first time I used that I got the reply "Bastard" I FC'd her an hour later.
Author:  jazzpur [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:23 pm ]
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anytime a girl acts like this...theres another guy in the picture.
captain has this right.
chicks dont make emotional uturns to run off and be alone.
Author:  Mack 2.0 [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:09 pm ]
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All Hail el Capitan Morgan and his infinite wisdom!

He's nailed this one!!!

:) :) :)
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