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I've basically found that women don't like being treated like "equals". They want to be dominated.

Women are "works of art", but something about their nature is like a little bratty thing that likes to play stupid games and be spanked for being a little brat, rinse and repeat.

To the original poster,

That's a good question. Another question worth asking is "do women like being treated like objects?".

I'm not convinced that many of them don't. In other words, I think many of them do ... like being treated like objects.

I understand this is only anecdotal evidence, but since I'm not a scientist and haven't conducted any studies, obviously all I have to go on are my personal experiences. I've found (100% of the time in my past experiences) that the more "humane" I treat a woman, the less she wants to be with me. I'll define humane as: treating her like an equal, consulting her in important decisions, giving consideration to her opinions, sharing things in a 50/50 manner, etc.

I've basically found that women don't like being treated like "equals". They want to be dominated.

It's weird, a woman giving a man "permission" to dominate or lead her. I've had women want JUST THAT from me in relationships. I couldn't do it because it seemed very fake. Sexually, yes, I could dominate, but as far as a woman basically saying "I give you permission to lead me, I will follow so long as it entertains and suits me" - that part I always had a problem with.

Now be honest...

If you could go through life behaving (and being rewarded for behaving) like a spoiled child, wouldn't you?

Author:	Pierce 007 [ Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:31 pm ]
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Just a thought but as I do this more and more I find myself viewing women as an object with female desires and learning their triggers to aquire them instead of feeling genuine feelings for them except that I want to bonk them crazy! I am 40 so maybe showin my age lol

Author:	jurupa [ Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:43 am ]
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They are only objects if you treat them as such.

Author:	Mack 2.0 [ Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:12 pm ]
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To the original poster, That's a good question. Another question worth asking is "do women like being treated like objects?". I'm not convinced that many of them don't. In other words, I think many of them do ... like being treated like objects. I understand this is only anecdotal evidence, but since I'm not a scientist and haven't conducted any studies, obviously all I have to go on are my personal experiences. I've found (100% of the time in my past experiences) that the more "humane" I treat a woman, the less she wants to be with me. I'll define humane as: treating her like an equal, consulting her in important decisions, giving consideration to her opinions, sharing things in a 50/50 manner, etc. I've basically found that women don't like being treated like "equals". They want to be dominated.

Author:	jurupa [ Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:03 am ]
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Quote: I've basically found that women don't like being treated like "equals". They want to be dominated. For most women this is true, but some do want to be treated as "equals" in the sense that they are not second class but on the same level as you but submissive to you. Its one hell of a balancing act really.

Author:	Mack 2.0 [ Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:16 am ]
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Oh yeah, Jurupa, I totally know those types of women. You are right. It is a tough balancing act. Because it's just that...an act. All semantics and hair-splitting aside (as far as word definitions), it is next to impossible to be equal with someone you are submissive to. The only way to accomplish that is to "act" submissive and "act" dominant. Basically role playing. It's no different than the successful and powerful business woman who comes home from the office and hopes that her husband will punish and spank her. It's role play. It's weird, a woman giving a man "permission" to dominate or lead her. I've had women want JUST THAT from me in relationships. I couldn't do it because it seemed very fake. Sexually, yes, I could dominate, but as far as a woman basically saying "I give you permission to lead me, I will follow so long as it entertains and suits me" - that part I always had a problem with. I'm like "why even maintain the charade?"

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Author:	Byzantine [ Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:47 am ]
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Women are "works of art", but something about their nature is like a little bratty thing that likes to play stupid games and be spanked for being a little brat, rinse and repeat. They are not intellectually inferior but they seem to just worry about more simple things than us sometimes, one time I had an extensive conversation with an ex about the amount of pressure society puts on a man's shoulders, I greatly explained every aspect about my life that puts a considerable amount of pressure on my shoulders, everything from work, to sexually pleasing her, it was a good way to sort my thoughts out but by the time I was done, she had a blank look in her face and while she gave me a wonderful "poor stressed baby" blow job to relieve the GREAT social pressure I felt I thought how nice it must be not to over think things. Anyway...to connect to your question, yes I think they are "object-ized" by society's design in general, but I believe their behavior to be totally separate from their intellect and potential, I think they live a blissful simpleness of seeking what they THINK makes them happy and thats why I love them.....all

Author:	Mack 2.0 [ Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:10 am ]
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Quote: Women are "works of art", but something about their nature is like a little bratty thing that likes to play stupid games and be spanked for being a little brat, rinse and repeat. Now be honest... If you could go through life behaving (and being rewarded for behaving) like a spoiled child, wouldn't you?

Author:	SkyGroove [ Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:43 am ]
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Quote: To the original poster, That's a good question. Another question worth asking is "do women like being treated like objects?". I'm not convinced that many of them don't. In other words, I think many of them do ... like being treated like objects. I understand this is only anecdotal evidence, but since I'm not a scientist and haven't conducted any studies, obviously all I have to go on are my personal experiences. I've found (100% of the time in my past experiences) that the more "humane" I treat a woman, the less she wants to be with me. I'll define humane as: treating her like an equal, consulting her in important decisions, giving consideration to her opinions, sharing things in a 50/50 manner, etc. I've basically found that women don't like being treated like "equals". They want to be dominated. how can this be so true, i find myself asking this many times, but still acting generous and bad boy alternately is awsome it's funny how sometimes, all that it comes down to women is being naughty and giving it to them... it's almost as if that could overcome anything for them... that is exactly why there are women and quality women tho... so, basically, never forget about how girls will like you more if you don't really care about her nature and just fuck her anyways, then after that you can be a little nice, but keep fucking her and doing the naughty shit, girls will always never be able to resist to some things.

Author:	jurupa [ Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:16 pm ]
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Quote: It's weird, a woman giving a man "permission" to dominate or lead her. I've had women want JUST THAT from me in relationships. I couldn't do it because it seemed very fake. Sexually, yes, I could dominate, but as far as a woman basically saying "I give you permission to lead me, I will follow so long as it entertains and suits me" - that part I always had a problem with. The thing is there is no such thing as a 50/50 relationship because someone always dominates the relationship and its just that most girls want the guy to do it. The tricky ones are the switches, ie the ones with a submissive and dominate side to them. But with those one side tends to be the more dominate side tho. As far as the "entertaining" part goes, well that can be sliced up in so many ways it would take forever to talk about it. As you got the whole mystery guy thing to literally the guy entertaining the guy by spending money on her.

Author:	Byzantine [ Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:11 pm ]
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Quote: Now be honest... If you could go through life behaving (and being rewarded for behaving) like a spoiled child, wouldn't you? yes, sometimes I switch it around playing the "Im the spoiled one, I want ice cream NOW!" game with them I love referring to the monkey paradigm, at some point through history they learned to play our strings...those sneaky bastards lol

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