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The Definitive Guide to using Negs (don't be THAT guy)
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Author:  saqchek [ Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:14 pm ]
Post subject:  The Definitive Guide to using Negs (don't be THAT guy)
This directly from Magic Bullets. Negs are subtle and not insults. I see too many noobs that don't understand this concept. You don't always have to neg a woman.

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The problem with negs is that they can often backfire if used inappropriately and demonstrate low
Social Intuition. Here are some tips to avoid this situation:

1) Only neg high-value women. If she is not one of the most attractive women in the room, don’t neg her

2) Don’t over-neg. One, maybe two, is usually the maximum unless you are dealing with a woman who is vastly out of your league.

3) Don’t draw attention to the neg. Change the subject quickly or deliver the neg as an aside when you are in the middle of a longer story or piece.

You should always say something unrelated to the neg as soon as you deliver it. If you pause for her to react, she might feel defensive or feel she needs to respond negatively to you in order to “save face”, especiall in front of her friends.
Author:  snubby (aka Zen) [ Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:08 pm ]
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Good advice. I often see way too much emphasis placed on negs. It's just one tool in the toolbox, and most of the time, it stays there. :wink:
Author:  Charisma11 [ Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:26 pm ]
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I see where your going with this. Negs should always be out of the blue while your in the middle of something.... not like yea u have man hands, and then not say anything
Author:  saqchek [ Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:39 pm ]
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I see where your going with this. Negs should always be out of the blue while your in the middle of something.... not like yea u have man hands, and then not say anything
Apparently you don't see where I'm going with this. Read the direct quote from Magic Bullets. It's quite clear what the message on negs is. Unless the girl values herself extremely high (and you low), chances are you don't even NEED to neg her to begin with.
Author:  saqchek [ Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:04 am ]
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bump. because i think most of you noobs need to understand this concept.
Author:  Trivial [ Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:51 am ]
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I disagree I use negs on all girls. Its just playful teasing. But the difference, the uglier a girl the more I make fun of her intelligence, the hotter the girl the more I make fun of outside appearance.
Author:  The Doctor [ Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:59 am ]
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I disagree I use negs on all girls. Its just playful teasing. But the difference, the uglier a girl the more I make fun of her intelligence, the hotter the girl the more I make fun of outside appearance.
I agree 100%
Author:  saqchek [ Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:47 pm ]
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I disagree I use negs on all girls. Its just playful teasing. But the difference, the uglier a girl the more I make fun of her intelligence, the hotter the girl the more I make fun of outside appearance.


Tell that to Savoy and Mystery. Two of the top PUAs in the world...lol
Author:  Trivial [ Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:11 pm ]
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I disagree I use negs on all girls. Its just playful teasing. But the difference, the uglier a girl the more I make fun of her intelligence, the hotter the girl the more I make fun of outside appearance.


Tell that to Savoy and Mystery. Two of the top PUAs in the world...lol
There just telling basic information for the average guy. Because the average guy has a better chance to just use no negs on lower caliber girls because they don't understand how to use them. They see every neg as the same.

Let me give example.

take a timid girl that is a HB 7.... You and HB7 are just having a discussion about how she has did on a test and she keeps talking about it and you say do you have an off button this is going to be a turn off and make you seem like a jerk in her eyes.

But in the same way you if shes talking about the test and you say I thought you were smarter than that with a smile then shes going to laugh and its a way of playfully teasing.

Its all about calibration and thats why I think situational negs are the best!
Author:  bitstream [ Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:24 pm ]
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The girl I'm seeing (second date soon...) is a lot shorter and I like that I feel tall next to her. If I neg her, saying something like "you make me feel so tall", would this do more harm than good since I'm drawing attention to my height (or lack thereof)?
Author:  Trivial [ Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:30 pm ]
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The girl I'm seeing (second date soon...) is a lot shorter and I like that I feel tall next to her. If I neg her, saying something like "you make me feel so tall", would this do more harm than good since I'm drawing attention to my height (or lack thereof)?
Yeah ,use it. Its about being playful and teasing each other.

I would stand next to her and then look over her then down to her face and then put a slight wtf/shocked face and say jeez you are short, I almost didn't see you right next to me. with a smile on.

Hope this helps
Author:  saqchek [ Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:31 pm ]
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The girl I'm seeing (second date soon...) is a lot shorter and I like that I feel tall next to her. If I neg her, saying something like "you make me feel so tall", would this do more harm than good since I'm drawing attention to my height (or lack thereof)?
You are on day2 so there shouldn't be any negs used to begin with. You should be in the comfort stages. I might would use a neg/freeze out if she tried to shit test me, but other than that, you should have built attraction already.

Negs are used as a "false disqualifier" when first meeting a woman. It makes them feel like you aren't trying to hook up with them. Using negs after attraction is already done is likely to make you look like an asshole.

ps. i don't even know if i would even consider that a neg to be honest with you.
Author:  Trivial [ Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:38 pm ]
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The girl I'm seeing (second date soon...) is a lot shorter and I like that I feel tall next to her. If I neg her, saying something like "you make me feel so tall", would this do more harm than good since I'm drawing attention to my height (or lack thereof)?
You are on day2 so there shouldn't be any negs used to begin with. You should be in the comfort stages. I might would use a neg/freeze out if she tried to shit test me, but other than that, you should have built attraction already.

Negs are used as a "false disqualifier" when first meeting a woman. It makes them feel like you aren't trying to hook up with them. Using negs after attraction is already done is likely to make you look like an asshole.

ps. i don't even know if i would even consider that a neg to be honest with you.
What are you talking about. It seems like you just got done reading the game and MM and think you know what you are talking about.


Please don't listen to his advice. You need to playfully tease once in a while. Shes not going take it as an insult if you do it right. She will think you are a funny guy for doing this and not think of you trying to lower her value but just messing around with her.

Make sure you tell stories and jokes and just have a good conversation.

Good luck!
Author:  bitstream [ Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:52 pm ]
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Well, we have talked on the phone for over an hour and had a lengthy first date (for a week night). I played it safe, asked her some questions, told her plenty of stories about myself and all that.... though she was making me do a TON of qualifying.

I'm talking fairly blunt questions about how I want to raise kids (to see if I might be in line with her), when I am getting my own house (in a few months), etc. She's almost out of my league, so it's really tough for me to turn the tables or demonstrate a whole lot of HV.

That's why I was hoping to neg her a bit since I don't have much to go on. Sigh...
Author:  saqchek [ Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:18 pm ]
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The girl I'm seeing (second date soon...) is a lot shorter and I like that I feel tall next to her. If I neg her, saying something like "you make me feel so tall", would this do more harm than good since I'm drawing attention to my height (or lack thereof)?
You are on day2 so there shouldn't be any negs used to begin with. You should be in the comfort stages. I might would use a neg/freeze out if she tried to shit test me, but other than that, you should have built attraction already.

Negs are used as a "false disqualifier" when first meeting a woman. It makes them feel like you aren't trying to hook up with them. Using negs after attraction is already done is likely to make you look like an asshole.

ps. i don't even know if i would even consider that a neg to be honest with you.
What are you talking about. It seems like you just got done reading the game and MM and think you know what you are talking about.


Please don't listen to his advice. You need to playfully tease once in a while. Shes not going take it as an insult if you do it right. She will think you are a funny guy for doing this and not think of you trying to lower her value but just messing around with her.

Make sure you tell stories and jokes and just have a good conversation.

Good luck!
I told him not to neg on Day2. How is that bad advice. Negging is not "playfully teasing". I also told him that comment he wanted to make was NOT a neg. Maybe you need to read MM/MB/TG so you can refresh yourself on the methods my friend.
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