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| Author: | XxIceDxX [ Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | New to the game |
Looking for a little advice some help even my friend has been teaching me its not that hes doing a bad job i mean i see him get girls all the time its just i dont know how or where to begin with this can i get some help? |
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| Author: | Jits138 [ Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:48 pm ] |
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Buy Mystery Method, The Game, And Double Your Dating. Read them in that order, practice in field, leave your buddy in the dust. |
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| Author: | Lava [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:15 am ] |
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read those books mentioned above and thats it! I over-read material and I've come accross one PUA saying this another PUA saying the exact opposite, now I don't know what to believe! over it though! once you've read those books, go out to get rejected, embrace the rejection it will make you stronger....any skill requires practice, just like sports, you can never be 100% perfect at it no matter how hard you try but you will play above your standards and satisfaction levels, does require practice though good luck |
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| Author: | Prince589 [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:57 am ] |
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My advice is that you can read all the PUA material but as time goes by use those that suits your own style. |
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| Author: | freddymach [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:31 am ] |
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And start going out and using everything as quickly as you can. |
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| Author: | Draconobilus [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:47 am ] |
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I am in the same boat as you, I am pretty new to the game but I have no starting point I have read "The Game" and the additional book by "Style" yet my game has not improved, I have no idea where I am going wrong but I'm consistently altering my image to try different techniques, my current alteration is mixing just enough "Bad Boy Attitude" with my own to amp myself up a bit, as I know I lack confidence and sometimes let people use me like a door mat, but I refuse to stay an AFC, I have acting qualifications which make it so I can adopt any image and pull it off well I'm just hoping it will be enough! |
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| Author: | Lava [ Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:31 am ] |
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starting with the game is nothing I would recommend, the difference between a maths book a novel about a mathmatician is that the maths book purely TEACHES you how to do maths. a novel is a story showing you how the mathmatician became a mathmatician. you want to learn first using the maths book, and then see how you can take it further. I don't understand why "the game" is a highly recommended book for starters, trying to understand the method from that book is like understanding women, because you have to read between the lines. The book goes on for example about a stroy scene in 4 pages and within one paragraph neil teaches something, but its hard to pick up on those things. mystery method is a good short book that purely teaches you, as well as Double your Dating by David deAngelo...once you read mystery method you will find out that "the game" teaches exactly the same things but in small paragraphs between large story sections....however, "the game" shows you the life of becoming a pua, all the rewards and consequences based on only ONE MAN's reality, neil strauss. he lives in a mansion in hollywood, I dont think thats your reality, how can you learn a lot from that? unless you live like neil strauss, dress like him, look like him, do what he does and live in hollywood, then fair, but I doubt anyone in this forum does (if so, I would love to know them)....start with mystery method before the game, the game is an enjoyable book about becoming a PUA. definitely also read double your dating before that |
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| Author: | XxIceDxX [ Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:12 pm ] |
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I Greatly appriciate all of the replys to this all of the advice so far has been helpful i asked around and got Rules of the Game so im gonna begin reading that one before i continue reading the game |
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| Author: | NashLife [ Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:52 pm ] |
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Personally, the only material I read was, "The Game," and I tried reading, "Mystery Method," but I found it overly technical so I never got through, I would say a quarter of the book. "The Game," to me was helpful in that at the time it was relatively unknown that there were better methods of communicating and presenting yourself to women than others. The perception I had was kind of like, you are either born with it or not. If you are born with it then you live the life. If you are not you kind of end up settling for what you can get. I did see a couple of Youtube videos featuring Cocky-Funny method, but I cannot really say I was influenced by any of it. "The Mystery Method," again to me was just complicating what is probably more natural than it seems. The majority of my learning was done on various message boards. A lot of them at this point have tanked. When I first started I was lucky, as there were on the message boards obvious legends who knew how to communicate and get ideas across. Now a lot of my old message boards are sadly filled with what I call, "little dogs," trying to act as if they are, "big dogs." The legends have largely moved on; there is kind of point I have found where Pick-up leads to other aspirations such as travelling the world or climbing MT. Everest. At least that is the pattern I see with the greats on the old message boards. I was also lucky in that I had a lot of friends who really could just naturally score women. I also have an older brother who again has always offered me advice on how to pick up women. So, I can't write I started out with nothing. Personally, I would say the best place to start if you are starting completely from scratch is actually not starting by trying to pick up women. Instead, try to become more social in all aspects of your life. Learn how to make new friends everywhere. Learn how to make the clerk at the store laugh or share a funny story with you. Learn how to be on a first name basis with everyone. Learn how to enter an elevator, where everyone is silent, and get everyone talking about something. The reason I suggest this approach, is because it builds confidence by giving you positive social experiences. Generally, people are very open if they feel you are not trying to get something from them or sell them something. Trying to pick-up women, you will be encountered with women who naturally have a defensive wall around them. So naturally, they are going to be less than excited or even interested to talk with you. Too many experiences like that when you are starting out may discourage you in the long run. Also in just trying to improve your overall social skills, when you feel confident enough to start approaching women you will have an easier time. Because you have social experience under your belt going in, you will be naturally relaxed and confident. Consequently where the girl would have at one time had a defensive wall up, she will not with because you are relaxed and confident. I mean at this point, I can really chat with anyone. I like that, more so than the picking up women aspect. It actually helps my job a helk of a lot. When I hang out with friends, I'm usually the one who kind of gets the party going with another group of girls. I can honestly write, I have never been slapped or really put down by women at bars. The worst I have ever gotten is, "no thanks," with sometimes a, "that is sweet of you." At this point the greatest compliment I have ever received was by an older dude. I was at a local convenience which is family run. I know the entire family on a first name basis and they have even invited me to their home on special occasions. I was in line and the father who owns the store said to me while I was in line, "Good morning [name]" and my reply back was, "Hey Good morning, how is [name] doing. I hope he is doing well." This older husky biker dude behind me said, "That is the most genuine and sincere greeting I have ever heard." That too me means more than picking up women. |
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| Author: | XxIceDxX [ Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:15 am ] |
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NashLife I honestly have to say WOW and i mean in a good way i never really thought of it like that before in the "Whole" social aspect that just opened a lot more doors now before i even think of trying anything that i have found more helpful than anything so for no offence to the others but you put it into major perspective for me making seem a lot different and in a way easier and for that i Personally thank you |
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