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Author:  Physicist [ Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Push/Pull 2 step forward, 1 step back explanation needed

At the title says. Bit of trouble getting my head around the concept, so would really help it if someone can concisely explain it with some examples. Thanks.

Author:  Lava [ Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:58 am ]
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I was just talking to a friend earlier and explained this technique to him. My gaming is all about psychological analysis.

Say we're both football players in the same team and I said to you "we lost the game because of you" in a jokey way. How would you feel? (I'm assuming you're someone who takes jokes from friends)

This time, new scanario, if I was to say to you "you're a great football player", you will most likely smile and feel good for the validation, right?. Two seconds later I come back with "but we lost the game because of you". How would you feel?

In the first scenario, I was the friend that made you feel a bit down and maybe a little insecure about your football game, it was a joke, you knew it was but deep inside you questioned who is the better football player between us. If you didn't take the joke well, you would of got pissed off and felt down. Right?

In the second scanario, I made you feel good about yourself, boosted yourself esteem, by stating you're a great football player, and just for a second when I let you have the enjoyment I came back with exactly what I said in the first scenario to ruin your moment. This time, let me guess how you feel. You're emotionally confused, you're not as pissed off in the first scenario, because you have a little hope by that first comment, but taking all the excitement away from you fucked you up and you're questioning it, your response back would probably be "how did we lose because of me?", especially if its not true, or "no, I am a great football player, don't you think?"..etc

Thats an example of the push-pull technique, even though here I did pull first then push. It doesn't matter.

Those fast emotional twists are exactly what you want to do with a girl, remember how it made you feel, women feel it stronger because they are more emotional.

Now, in gaming, in the first scenario, it was a pure neg. I'm not going into the neg theory.

In the second scenario, you make a compliment and then take it back slightly. Get her excited and all happy then slightly make her feel a bit down. make her go through a roller-coaster of emotions within seconds. It has a great psychological effect. It works almost like a neg, but with at a higher psychological level and the beauty of it is that by doing that, you have just let her QUALIFY HERSELF which she will most likely do because she wants you to know that she's great. Look at what I wrote as my expected responses from you for this technique in the second scenario, its all qualifying responses. Qualifying doesn't necessarily mean that girl is totally into you, but she feels the need to DHV for you without her even feeling she is attracted to you, her sub-concsious is telling her that she is but she can't feel it. Its fun, playful and at the same time you're teasing, which women LOVE. I personally don't neg no more because I'm never honest about it, I do this instead in a playful way. Its powerful. You only want to do it at the right time, there is no set time for it, just when you feel the moment is right, go for it, its easy. I do it with my guy friends too (no gay shit), there is absolutely nothing sexual about it. try it with a few guy friends without pissing them off, see how they react. Once you've mastered it with guys, you can do it exactly the same way with girls too. I'm a natural because I do it with guys anyway, girls now that I joke like that so they don't question if its gaming, its something withing my comfort zone.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING is to do it in cocky-funny, in a humurous way, or expect a slap. Body language is what plays most of it here.

Examples, gonna take no longer than half a minute to think of each example from the top of my head, thats how easy it is:

- "You're a great dancer" (pull) [pause] "but you totally can't dance to the beat" (push)
- "That salad you made me was awesome" (pull) [pause] "but you really messed by burning the toast ha ha" (push)
- "I met a girl today who has better taste in music than you" (push) [pause] "but you're definitely better than her in everything else, you're much more fun"

Usually, when pull comes before push, the girl is most likely going to qualify herself. when push comes before pull, the girl will most likely just laugh, smile or hi 5.

Anyone else has any comments, suggestions, corrections...etc

Let me know how it goes, try it with your female friends, and practice it with your guy friends but keep in mind girls will respond at a higher dramatic level.

Author:  Physicist [ Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:02 am ]
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whoa, great post!

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