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Author:  deletethisprofile [ Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:04 am ]
Post subject:  Sarging: sober vs. drunk
Hey
Ok, I need some advice from some experienced PUAs.

Here's the thing.

When I usually go clubbing and I'm not driving, I drink. By drinking I mean a few beers and maybe some vodka + redbull - just at a point where I'm feeling pretty pumped up and "happy". What happens is that I do great with women at that stage because I'm not worrying about applying all those techniques I've been reading about. I do it naturally and automatically; thus, focusing on the conversation and on having a good time with HBs a lot more. I make them attracted to me pretty easily
I'm guessing alcohol does that pretty much to every one hey ? haha - if you don't drink too much obviously.
The results are great! Last month back in Brazil, I would make out with 3,4,5 girls (HB7 to HB9) in one night sometimes, but I stoped because I like focusing on one and then go for the f-close. It was pretty awesome!

so far so good right ??

Last week though, I went to a rave here in Edmonton and I was totally sober because I had to drive. I simply didn't have the balls to talk to women...I usually approach them even if I'm sober, but it takes some time to build it up..However, this time I was on my own at that rave. Not a single wingman to help me out. I just couldn't do it. I ended up going home earlier - frustrated.

Even with my bros, when I go out and Im sober, I usually hesitate too much to approach women. and according to Vin Dicarlo, I fail the Receptivity test. They see that I'm hesitating to go talk to them and this is totally a DLV - because I keep waiting for too many eye contact...and I get lots of them depending on the night.
I end up approaching them and doing a decent job. But I could do way better If I didnt hesitate.

My goal here is to be able to go sarging completely sober and still have the same results than when I go out under the influence of alcohol. It will help me save a lot of money too haha. from now on. I won't drink anymore when i go out sarging. I think it shouldnt be too hard to get used to it

I'm sure a lot of you guys went through the same problem!
Some advice would be appreciated

:wink:

GringoZ



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Author:  PUA Kenny [ Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:43 am ]
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Enjoyed the post and your success at club game.

Drinking as a crutch or in order to become social should be an AFC thing,but Im now starting to see that even aspiring PUAs get caught up.

Believe it or not,it's very mental.

Eventhough I never had this prob',drinking does get me to be more social although Im very social to begin with.

But one day,I had an empty beer bottle,I poured fruit juice in it,went to a local bar.And I was stunned at how just holding a beer bottle without alcohol in it actually gave me extra courage to be socialy(lol).

I knew it was fruit juice in the bottle of course,but I guess the mere fact that no one else knew,made feel subconsciously feel as though it was alcohol.

Find ways to psych your brain out.
Author:  deletethisprofile [ Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:50 am ]
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Yea I guess I gotta find a way to overcome this issue. I agree it's mental and I find that a lot of people do it.

The reason I got used to it is that my buddies and I always pre-drink before going to the clubs. Whenever I go to a date though, I do fine most of the time and I don't drink...maybe socially if meet her up at a pub.

My problem is cold approaching at the clubs when sober..after the first minute I get the conversation going just fine.

I guess it's an AA issue hey ?
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I knew it was fruit juice in the bottle of course,but I guess the mere fact that no one else knew,made feel subconsciously feel as though it was alcohol.
You sure you it wasn't marula juice in there ??? hahahahaha


I can't do this in Canada though. They wouldn't let me in bar with a bottle of "beer" lol.

One question, what If a HB wanted to drink some of your "beer", that day ?

would you pull a C&F like "woow you can't afford getting your own beer ? I thought you were rich! You know what ?. this relationship isn't gonna work out...if you'll excuse me now, I'm gonna look for an 80 year old woman who has a lot of money"

or would you be like..."..it's....huh... apple juice in there" lol[/quote]
Author:  Crazy Jester [ Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:57 am ]
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I developed a dependency on alcohol. When I'm sober or not even moderately drunk, I will be full of the self-doubt that has haunted me all of my lifes so far. Though the argument is, when your not drunk you have a better read on situations and will most likely have a better chance of succeeding.
I personally find drunk people indimidating, unless you join them.

The argument for being drunk is, you don't give a shit and any kind of doubt you had, disappears and you will easily approach women, and have the confidence to flow naturally, and proably more fun.
The downside is, getting too drunk. Scaring girls off, especially the sober ones.
Reaching a point, where you draw too much attention to yourself, and begin to look uglier.

Is there any way to combine both efforts?
It's really difficult.
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:31 pm ]
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@GringoZ-Lol,Marula juice in the bottle?Nah.

Lol,I never actually pre-planned a C&F line in case an HB asks for a drink.

But I like your C&F line;is it yours?

@Crazy Jester-I agree with you totally;just know limits.

You shouldnt get all sloppily drunk.

But to drink 1-2 cocctails in order to loosen up wouldnt be the worst idea.

Overall,it's a(mental)state issues also.

Before going clubbing or bars,etc.,instead of cold approaching girls,one should pump their state up ahead of time by being social.

If I know Im going to the club at 1am,Im gonna be chatting up people(men & women)an hour or so prior.

So when you finally approach that 1st HB in the club,you would've already been amped and in state.
Author:  deletethisprofile [ Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:21 pm ]
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Lol,I never actually pre-planned a C&F line in case an HB asks for a drink.
But I like your C&F line;is it yours?
Neither did I, It's a nice qualifier though.
Most of the line is mine. I just like to use Deangelo's famous C&F line "this relationship isn't gonna work out" lol
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I developed a dependency on alcohol. When I'm sober or not even moderately drunk, I will be full of the self-doubt that has haunted me all of my lifes so far
Have you tried giving up alcohol when sarging though ? I feel exactly like you do. I want to change, but a couple cocktails or beers aren't gonna loosen things up to me. I would need at least 5 beers. So it's better for me to stop and do it "sober style".
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You shouldnt get all sloppily drunk
Yea, I only did that once and It wasn't fun...lol
I always have control of myself when I drink. We shouldn't be drinking until a point where we can't control our actions anymore...
Got kick out of a bar one day for this reason hahahahahahaha
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