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Author:  harrylockhart [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Help me not screw this up again..
Ok, so I dated this girl that I had and still do have major oneitis for. Can't help it, but must admit it, it's the first step. She dumped me a couple months ago for being AFC I now realize. In desperation I started studying up and reading Deangelo and devouring everything you guys have written on here, love it!

So long story short, cut her off completely. She would text every once in a while, i would be short and cocky+funny back. Eventually she contacted me and asked me to have lunch with her. Somehow she tricked me into asking her out even though she clearly made the first move to get back together. Anyway, I'm slipping into the same routine as before, chasing her, trying to get her out on the subsequent dates. She waits sometimes days to respond to my texts. Looking objectively, I know I'm messing this up again. I'm doing a much better job with my body language now and becoming a cock+funny expert and just destroying her with that stuff (in a good way).

Question is, how do I get her to chase me? When I don't call/text her, she hardly ever reaches out to me. She almost always waits for me to make contact. How do I turn this around? Just go balls to the wall and completely stop contacting her and wait and see if she makes a move? I'm afraid she'll think I have lost interest..

Yours Truly,
Harry Lockhart
Author:  CountRedRover [ Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:11 am ]
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Question is, how do I get her to chase me?
You gotta show your the shit (being cocky) and your having an awesome time and a lot of fun doing this and that.

When I don't call/text her, she hardly ever reaches out to me. She almost always waits for me to make contact. How do I turn this around?
Again show your having a good time whether its through facebook or hangin with mutual friends

Just go balls to the wall and completely stop contacting her and wait and see if she makes a move? I'm afraid she'll think I have lost interest..
YES!!! delete her number!!! make her come to you!! make her miss you!! next time she texts you go cocky funny sayin "whos this" she'll be all like "tanya=( [or w.e. her name is]" then you say "i know im just being an ass :)" push/pull. and dont hang out with her. she'll ask if you wanna do something just say you cant. this will be hard, but keep this going for least two weeks or a moth if you can. if she pulls the jealousy card and says shes seeing someone say "thats cute. my rides here". then later hit her with

you: you wont believe what happend to me today. lets just say it involved work, vodka, mall and a penguin. haha. anywho. what u doin this week. i might have a few hours to spare:) [here your pretty much making it so you can hangout with her, without asking her. she'll then tell you when you both can]
her: haha i gotta hear this. im free around blah blah though
you: awesome. we'll do lunch/movie/whatev. ill pick you up round (time) wear somethin cute.
her:ok:)
and you should have her again. but dont get your hopes too high up with this advice. to me it works if you follow this correctly and if it doesnt, screw it, she lost you and your the shit. more fish in the seaworld. haha. yes this is how i think.
Author:  Toffeeboy [ Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:12 pm ]
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Looks like she's got you hooked! Unfortunately, you're playing it right into her hands..

I've had the same problem before and like Kryptonic said 'you gotta show her your the shit'..if she sees you having a good time and not being bothered by petty little things she naturally be attracted to you and come back for more. Right now, it's seems like it's the other way around ah!

Some women are stubborn when it comes to contact - they won't budge to start a conversation. They expect YOU to come running right after them each time. Why on earth would you want to be a woman like this? If she doesn't feel the need to communicate, just neg her and move on. She'll come back naturally!

The key is that if she thinks your fun and worth having around, she'll come back. If not, then you my friend are being AFC for sticking around. Just go out, open random strangers and # close some chicks in your area. If this girl hears you're not desperate for her she'll come back to you for being a player.
Author:  Sinergy [ Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:46 pm ]
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I will be completely honest and tell you that your best bet is to distract yourself by sarging and getting better with your openers and routines. As afformentioned, the problem is she is doing to you what you were expected to do to her. At this point, she knows what you want from her and has the control.

You need to take back control by cutting off all communication for the time being, and fill that void with other women or successful sarges. This will increase your confidence while at the same time creating a certain discontent in her mind as to why you stopped calling.

After enough time has passed, assuming she has not contacted you, it is either your time to move on and forget about her, or throw out a crazy proposition. Say something like "Hey, I am going bunjee jumping next week and heard that the rush and adrenaline is much stronger when you do it with someone attractive, interested?"

This is just an example, but it is a last attempt. Good luck to you!
Author:  harrylockhart [ Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Reporting back
Thanks for the help guys!! I took the advice and froze her our for a couple days. She sent me a text last night that said she was talking about me with her sister and that she told her about the time we hooked up in the bathroom at some party.

I think this must be a good sign for two reasons, she's talking about me with a family member and remembering something sexual we did together. I sent a short cocky funny response back, with no response (could've seen that coming).

Any ideas what to do next? I think i'm just going to continue to freeze her out until she contacts again. Or should i take this as a sign and go for it?
Author:  Sinergy [ Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:02 pm ]
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It seems to me the best way to continue on is to keep up with the freeze. Next time she messages you, wait a day to respond and be real short like "cool" or "I hear that" or whatever makes sense.

The more you appear unatainable and spontaneous the more she will be attracted. Maybe next time she brings up something sexual, allude to how boring and mundane sex in a bathroom is, and that it does not even come close to your typical crazy standards. This will make her want to know more, but you won't tell her more, you need to make her earn more.

The trick is to slowly turn the tide and get her thinking like you are/were. I still suggest going out and practicing and gaining confidence. This is something she will notice when you next see each other.
Author:  CountRedRover [ Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:44 pm ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
text last night that said she was talking about me with her sister and that she told her about the time we hooked up in the bathroom at some party.
This is something my ex did. After asking someone about it they told me that she was just trying to get you to say:
"I miss you"
If they feel that you miss them and everything it helps them, though she'll ignore you for saying that. you just cant do it. you cant tell her you miss her.
Author:  EdgeJunkeh [ Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:54 pm ]
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Vin DiCarlo Talks alot about contrast and intrigue.

Intrigue means there is something she is trying to get from you, get
you to do or find out about you. Notice that jerks usually create these two
very naturally.
But there is a way to be intriguing without being hurtful to women.
Think about a movie. If you knew the entire plot and ending of the movie
before you saw it, it would be a lot less interesting. -VIN

There is a way to create intrigue called the contrast principle. The
contrast principle states that you will defy categorization and create massive
amounts of intrigue by manufacturing a perceived "contrast" between
your stereotypical image and the way you present yourself.
So what is the typical stereotype of an unattractive Asian? Shy,
nerdy, socially unaware, well behaved, non-sexual. So how do we create
contrast - well you become outgoing, cool, social, badboy and sexual!
And if you are an Asian guy who can do that, your disadvantage has
all of a sudden become a huge advantage! (Because now you have way
more contrast than say a Latin guy who had the sexual stereotype to begin
with)-VIN

In his audio he told stories of his journeys and the main way he would get a girl to hang out or come in his house was to use intrigue. Simply by stating " I have a surprise for you" or anything that gets her curious will do.
Author:  harrylockhart [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Update
Thank you guys again for all your help, great advice!

So we went out last night to grab drinks and had a great time. At the end of the night when I was walking her back to her apartment, i went in to kiss her after properly escalating throughout the night and she stopped me (which she has never done before). She said she needed time to "sort things out with her life and think about all this". After i reacted like that was fine and it didn't bother me she then wanted to make out of course. I really like her, but at this point I think I have to move on, not even going to call/text and thank her for coming out. Total freeze out is my plan. What do you guys think?
Author:  CountRedRover [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:34 pm ]
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Id just text her saying "hey. You really impressed me last night and I don't get impressed often :) and if you aren't ready for this jelly I understand." Haha.
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