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Author:  D.O.S [ Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Kiss close lead up
Hey guys, last weekend i went out on town to go sarge, nothing new, but where i usually escalate and use some of gamblers stuff for the Kiss-Close (gamblers stuff is gold *credit*) i wanted to try something new for that.

so, I tried coming up with a natural lead up, to mystery's kiss gambit which is verbal.

as i now this is a giant hurdle for many guys i decided to put it out,

if anyone want to field test it further please pm me with the result's, i am trying to teach some of my friends this stuff, and kissing is a big hurdle for them so feedback especially from new pua's is highly appreciated!!

okay so, when you've isolated your target the gambit starts, you're gonna look strangely at your hands, and initiate a compliance test, what will happen is you're going to make it a little over the top, so she will ask what you're doing, it'll go like this:

her: what are you doing
me: (if i just started) wait a sec (moving her hands around a bit, putting them on my shoulder so our faces are just a couple of inches apart)'
me: this is called a compliance test, you're very good at doing what I want you to, did you know that?
her: (she'll pull away, and laugh) no im not! (teasingly)
me: yes you are, but what i really want to know is, if your good at doing what you want too?

her: (insert random answer, almost always yes)
me: well, do you want to kiss me?

well that's how it goes, kiss-closed three girls with this last weekend, 2 of them just kissed me one nodded smiled and then kissed me.

Not any new concept, but it worked for me, and hopefully it'll do the same for you
good luck guys
Author:  Jav [ Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kiss close lead up
Quote:
Hey guys, last weekend i went out on town to go sarge, nothing new, but where i usually escalate and use some of gamblers stuff for the Kiss-Close (gamblers stuff is gold *credit*) i wanted to try something new for that.

so, I tried coming up with a natural lead up, to mystery's kiss gambit which is verbal.

as i now this is a giant hurdle for many guys i decided to put it out,

if anyone want to field test it further please pm me with the result's, i am trying to teach some of my friends this stuff, and kissing is a big hurdle for them so feedback especially from new pua's is highly appreciated!!

okay so, when you've isolated your target the gambit starts, you're gonna look strangely at your hands, and initiate a compliance test, what will happen is you're going to make it a little over the top, so she will ask what you're doing, it'll go like this:

her: what are you doing
me: (if i just started) wait a sec (moving her hands around a bit, putting them on my shoulder so our faces are just a couple of inches apart)'
me: this is called a compliance test, you're very good at doing what I want you to, did you know that?
her: (she'll pull away, and laugh) no im not! (teasingly)
me: yes you are, but what i really want to know is, if your good at doing what you want too?

her: (insert random answer, almost always yes)
me: well, do you want to kiss me?

well that's how it goes, kiss-closed three girls with this last weekend, 2 of them just kissed me one nodded smiled and then kissed me.

Not any new concept, but it worked for me, and hopefully it'll do the same for you
good luck guys
So you're gonna look at your own hands and wait till she goes wtf are you doing?

It'd make more sense if you'd grab her hands and go. Why are they over there, come here... ->put em around you.

Pull her in close, if she stays there->make out.


Making it verbal 'do you want to kiss me?' isn't neccesary and can come across needy as you're putting too much emphasis on the kiss itself.

Physical proximity (how close she's willing to be with you) is more of an accurate IOI or IOD, given the distance. From there on you can just go for a kiss without any kind of verbal lead up. Which makes things far more easier.
Author:  D.O.S [ Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:51 pm ]
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naah dude its a compliance test (as i said) whatever test you usually run will do fine., but this one is great because the girl almost always ask's what you're doing (which is your goal)

you're feedback is all backwards man, remember i tried this out for NEWER guys in the game,(some of my friends) who has problems just going for it or leaps in when they get a chance and scare the girl away.
It's verbal to avoid exactly the leap in, and it's a built up so the guys can get a lot of confidence through IoI's so they don't chicken out.

I very rarely go for a verbal kiss close myself, but what i wanted to know was if it helped iliminate some anxiety for the guys who have a hard time kiss closing, and if they get better result's this way or with mystery's kiss gambit without the follow up :D
Author:  Jav [ Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:55 pm ]
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Quote:
naah dude its a compliance test (as i said) whatever test you usually run will do fine., but this one is great because the girl almost always ask's what you're doing (which is your goal)

you're feedback is all backwards man, remember i tried this out for NEWER guys in the game,(some of my friends) who has problems just going for it or leaps in when they get a chance and scare the girl away.
It's verbal to avoid exactly the leap in, and it's a built up so the guys can get a lot of confidence through IoI's so they don't chicken out.

I very rarely go for a verbal kiss close myself, but what i wanted to know was if it helped iliminate some anxiety for the guys who have a hard time kiss closing, and if they get better result's this way or with mystery's kiss gambit without the follow up :D
So you look at your own hands or not?....

Then you go: Give me your hands?

That part still makes little sense to me....


On eliminating the anxiety: I don't know if this particular tactic will do it, but what I do know for SURE: Practice helps ALOT. That's the key part. It matters very little what exactly you do, aslong as you push yourself.

I just wouldn't teach 'leap of faith' guys: "can I kiss you?" Coz it will be his replacement for the leap of faith without proper instructions. Therefor I'd take his leap of faith and learn him to first move closer to the target. You can even joke around with it "Dude, your leap of faith man, it's awesome. But, you gotta move closer first...."

Notice the positive reinforcement? He'll be more comfortable fine tuning that instead of going into a whole new direction which causes alot more anxiety.
Author:  D.O.S [ Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:11 am ]
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thanks man, thats what i was looking.

the complience test is somewhat hard to explain without showing it, so ill just leave it there, until someone with better writing skills than me comes along, or i get a camera out sarging
Author:  snillaheart [ Fri May 27, 2011 11:12 am ]
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Naw man kiss close is a hard thing to do for me at least but i dont think you should ever verbalize the rules of the game man thats just wrong. equally you shouldnt really ask for a kiss thats weak?
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