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| Author: | mobrinks [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:04 pm ] |
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I ran into an interesting situation last night, and I'm curious as to how everyone else would have played it. Some background - the Girl is a pretty good friend of mine. We've always had chemistry, but it was always as if she was with someone or I was with someone, so nothing has ever happened. She was abroad last semester, so we hadn't talked for about three months or so until last night. I was messing around with her, doing my normal c&f bullshit and she was laughing and punching my arm and what not. I forgot what prompted it, but at one point I told her she broke my heart (in my mind, I was obviously joking). She didn't exactly like this, and got quiet afterward. I was talking to other friends, and then she left. About ten minutes after she sends me this text: "Honestly Brinks idk why you are mad at me but you have no right treating me like shit like you did tonight" I laughed and asked her if she was serious, to which she said: "Yeah. I know when you are joking but tonight you took it too far" I really did not expect this at all, and didn't know how to handle it. She's a sarcastic person, but it really looks like I hurt her a bit. I was a bit drunk at the time, but I ran it by my friends and none of them heard me say anything that was out of line. I'm interested in more feedback. I haven't talked to her at all since, and am interested in how you guys would handle our next and subsequent interactions. I'm just inclined to say I pushed too far with the CF, and just need to recalibrate and incorporate a bit more "pulling" with my pushing. TL;DR - Girl responds poorly to CF, calls me an asshole and that I genuinely hurt her, how do I handle? |
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| Author: | tonio09 [ Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:08 am ] |
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"Look, I didn't mean to hurt you. I grew up in a family where I and my brother/sister/dad used to tease each other all the time. It's a sign of affection." |
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| Author: | EddieFews [ Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:24 am ] |
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Quote: "Look, I didn't mean to hurt you. I grew up in a family where I and my brother/sister/dad used to tease each other all the time. It's a sign of affection."
Dude.. No!Don't bother explaining yourself by anymeans.. And second what would you lie for? You handeled pretty well, I honestly think she's interested in you now. It seems like a test. Since you guys are friends you could of texted her " haha sorry, how about I make it up to you, I'll let you take me out (day) just us" Play into her little game but maintain the c&f frame. Then once you get her out call her out on it saying, " that was all bullshit Or w/e you get the picture |
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| Author: | Mack 2.0 [ Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:35 am ] |
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fuze, i had the same reaction. that it was a test as she was now seeing him in a potential romantic light. |
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| Author: | Hakuna [ Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:30 am ] |
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This was a basic shit test and it happened for 2 reasons. 1. Shame is the most ancient of female social conventions used to subdue male sexuality, masculine behavior, or other-wise anything that goes against the Feminine Matrix. You will be labeled a "jerk," "asshole," or some other derogatory term over and over again all throughout your life - it is a sign that you are doing your job. Women will always pull shit like this to make you feel bad for authoritative male behavior, or when you blow up their spot. The other day a girl asked me to buy her a drink and I responded with Mystery's classic line "Why? Are you Broke?" She turned crimson red and asked why I was such a dick and I responded "Because life blows." 2. Women LOVE LOVE LOVE drama. If they don't get enough of it from Tabloids or their single slutty friends, they will create it out of thin air. She wasn't consciously thinking "I'm gonna mis-interpret his joke to create drama," It is a subconscious reaction induced by her inner vagina demons aimed at creating chaos everywhere. She WANTS to misinterpret your joke to make it seem much more than it was. Back to fundamentals for a second, a shit test is simply a test a girl uses to see how well you can handle shit (Women are inclined to test men this way to see mating potential). Keep this in mind at all times, it will allow you to see whether or not a course of action is within proper protocol. If you flip out, you've shown you can't handle shit. If you apologize, you've shown you can't handle shit. If you show in ANYWAY that this shit has phased you, you've shown that you can't handle shit. If you backpedal and EXPLAIN YOURSELF, you've shown that you can't handle shit. (a) Play it cool completely. Don't say sorry, don't explain yourself; you are an ULTRA WORLD-BESTRIDING ALPHA with access to limitless pussy and a defacto Harm. When a girl gets mad at you or is upset, you don't give a FUCK. Your game is so magnetic, credit cards become defunct when they stay in your pocket for too long. (b) Freeze her out for a week then text her with "You're cute." Freezing her out takes out any sense of desperation, builds mystery, and makes her think. The second part instantly establishes a more sexual frame that you can escalate from. If she doesn't respond in a way you like, then fuck it and move on. "love" is a numbers game. If she texts you first, then you're good too. (c) whatever you do, DON'T back pedal or take anything to seriously. If she texts you with "We need to talk" respond with "I prefer the rites of libertinage over conversation." Keep it cool, funny, witty, brief, Alpha. Lastly, do NOT become a beta orbiter. Remember that women are constantly inclined to keep guys as orbiter to monopolize male attention. She may throw you attention randomly, flirt with you randomly, or do some random shyt to keep you on your toes and have you sucking off her ego. Fuck that sideways. |
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| Author: | Mack 2.0 [ Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:56 am ] |
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hakuna, that shit was so funny i lost weight laughing. thanks man. |
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| Author: | mobrinks [ Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:12 am ] |
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thanks guys! pretty much what i had thought, but it becomes so difficult when youre working on someone you genuinely care about. such is life. i texted her a few minutes ago, simply asking if she was coming out with me tonight. she replies saying that only if im nice. my response? only if she wears something cute. ive got this |
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| Author: | Mack 2.0 [ Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:29 am ] |
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Quote: ive got this
dude, you sooooooooo have this!*high fives* |
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| Author: | Lava [ Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:37 am ] |
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Fuze is bang on point, its scary how I was in the exact situation just last week!!! she didn't like my neg and she texts me sayin "she doesn't usually get offended easily but you were harsh" (she liked me back then), I never appologized but explained to her that she's just being silly because she knows me better than that, after that she understood my point and said "how about I make it up 4 u?" She replied instantly with a "lol ok" but the date never happened for my own situation fucked up reasons (I think I took too long or her ex is still something to her...anyway...). I told one of my close girl-friends about this who I seek advice from about her and she said girls would do that because they care about what the guys they like think of them and to re-assure that they actually look good infront of u (strong IOI and qualifying)...similar to her saying "btw, I look like shit today so don't laugh at me when u c me"....this is all from my experience |
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| Author: | mobrinks [ Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:34 pm ] |
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So, again thanks to all the replies so far - they give that needed perspective that you lose occasionally, despite knowing the RIGHT thing to do. So I have a goodie for everyone... FIELD REPORT TIME! I'll start from the beginning: Me and the buds are sitting around, and since this is college we're obviously playing a drinking game to The State of the Union. Here's the following text exchange between us, I opened: Code: B: Come out tonight.
G: I plan to. Will you be nice please? :(
B: Only if you wear something cute.
G: Shut it.
After this, I don't respond. She texts about ten minutes later.
G: Where are you all going? (She knew this, as there are only two places to go on a Tuesday night and her roommate is dating my roommate)
B: Bar Name, obviously. (I could have done something else here, but by this time I was drunk and not thinking clearly)
And then I get this MONSTER of a text from her instantly.
[b]G: Ahhhh okayyy I'm confused with life.[/b]
B: Come out, we'll dance your problems away, aight?
G: I am going out (Clearly dropped the ball from the previous text)
B: When are you leaving?
G: No ideaaaaaa
No response from me for about 10.
G: What about you?
Waited about ten.
B: Now!
G: K I think we are going to Other Bar I'm Not Going To
B: Stop by My Bar, we'll walk over after
G: Well everyone I'm with is going straught there sooo idkk man
So, there you have it. But wait - there's more! Well, not too much more, since I don't kiss and tell I'm definitely in a good position here, because this girl is pretty fucking awesome and really wants me, and because it WILL get back to my friend that I fucked her friend, hard, in the common room, in the bathroom, on the floor... But anyway, thanks again! I'll keep this thread updated with any future developments of which I hope there are plenty |
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