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Author:  salad_fingers [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:40 am ]
Post subject:  Pretending to be gay
OK, now comes the time for a controversial topic and a little confessional.

Like some people who post on here, the luck I have had with laying HBs is nonexistant, maybe going to an all-boys boarding school might not have helped socially but hey let's not point fingers like that. I discovered the opposite sex at 17 (most peeps from my school knew a lot of girls from the other school in town) and it was exciting getting to know them as people, friends, company etc.

But I never got anywhere and I remember a few one-itis cases and also feelings of bitterness and resentment towards all those alpha tw*ts who could get laid with a girl I desired with no effort whatsoever. I remember one chap from my school who seemed to be very friendly with girls and zero boys. At first I thought he was the just a big player but more and more people realized he is actually gay and coming out and it dawned on me later that all these girls are just an army of fag-hags for him. And yes immediately I realized the truth of how much HBs love gay boys etc. They could cuddle and stroke each other like teddy bears and it would not be taken at all seriously. This made me feel a resentment and jealousy too.

After a while finding myself and recovering from rejections, social low status and all that I decided "Sod this, I may as well just gay it up", and by the time of my uni student years, aware that I have sometimes been accused of "camp mannerisms" in the not too distant past, I decided I may as well over-do the gayness and make some HBs think I may be a gay boy and we will be in each others company. And, for the most part it worked! 8) Yes, I was aware that I would not exactly get laid but apart from that I could see just how gay guys get close to girls in ways the average straight guy can not. And it has been fun, get me out of my shell, expanded my social horizons and developed me more as a person by just simply being able to socialize with attractive girls.

But, what's the big issue? Well, I am coming to the realisation that all this gay pretender thing is fun up to a point and feels almost like a joke wearing thin, if you know what I mean. And in the last few months I have been willing to make a change and get into daygame and PUA etc and take a very brave step - give up the "gay act". But, I am not finding it easy to open HBs otherwise (the advantage with appearing "gay" being self-explanatory), but of course as a random guy in town trying to open an HB and looking "gay", I don't even think that would be able to get towards a number close. It really is a self-contradicitng double edged sword and as far as any progress in the game is concerned I really feel stuck like you can not imagine.

Sorry for sounding crazy and confusing but thanks for reading. Have I just gone and confessed how luckless and loser-ish I have been in my time? :oops:
Author:  carlosdrr [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Pretending to be gay
Quote:
OK, now comes the time for a controversial topic and a little confessional.

Like some people who post on here, the luck I have had with laying HBs is nonexistant, maybe going to an all-boys boarding school might not have helped socially but hey let's not point fingers like that. I discovered the opposite sex at 17 (most peeps from my school knew a lot of girls from the other school in town) and it was exciting getting to know them as people, friends, company etc.

But I never got anywhere and I remember a few one-itis cases and also feelings of bitterness and resentment towards all those alpha tw*ts who could get laid with a girl I desired with no effort whatsoever. I remember one chap from my school who seemed to be very friendly with girls and zero boys. At first I thought he was the just a big player but more and more people realized he is actually gay and coming out and it dawned on me later that all these girls are just an army of fag-hags for him. And yes immediately I realized the truth of how much HBs love gay boys etc. They could cuddle and stroke each other like teddy bears and it would not be taken at all seriously. This made me feel a resentment and jealousy too.

After a while finding myself and recovering from rejections, social low status and all that I decided "Sod this, I may as well just gay it up", and by the time of my uni student years, aware that I have sometimes been accused of "camp mannerisms" in the not too distant past, I decided I may as well over-do the gayness and make some HBs think I may be a gay boy and we will be in each others company. And, for the most part it worked! 8) Yes, I was aware that I would not exactly get laid but apart from that I could see just how gay guys get close to girls in ways the average straight guy can not. And it has been fun, get me out of my shell, expanded my social horizons and developed me more as a person by just simply being able to socialize with attractive girls.

But, what's the big issue? Well, I am coming to the realisation that all this gay pretender thing is fun up to a point and feels almost like a joke wearing thin, if you know what I mean. And in the last few months I have been willing to make a change and get into daygame and PUA etc and take a very brave step - give up the "gay act". But, I am not finding it easy to open HBs otherwise (the advantage with appearing "gay" being self-explanatory), but of course as a random guy in town trying to open an HB and looking "gay", I don't even think that would be able to get towards a number close. It really is a self-contradicitng double edged sword and as far as any progress in the game is concerned I really feel stuck like you can not imagine.

Sorry for sounding crazy and confusing but thanks for reading. Have I just gone and confessed how luckless and loser-ish I have been in my time? :oops:
haha
I once pretended to be a virgin and had sex with the girl for like 4 months.
Author:  _Jax_ [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:49 am ]
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Lol I remember I tried doing this freshmen year of high school. I acted gay for what I think was 3 months. My girlfriend at the time thought it was very amusing.

Do you know why girls love gay men? Because they make the best fwends. Who they can share feelings with and not worry about being hit on.

Acting gay is a no go.
Author:  salad_fingers [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:26 pm ]
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Lol I remember I tried doing this freshmen year of high school. I acted gay for what I think was 3 months. My girlfriend at the time thought it was very amusing.

Do you know why girls love gay men? Because they make the best fwends. Who they can share feelings with and not worry about being hit on.

Acting gay is a no go.
Yes I knew that all the time, thank you! That's why I put on the act in the first place. And I most certainly did hear many a cute girl's feelings and all and there were times when I had to take a deep breath and make sure I did not have an embarrassed look on my face because I often got hard-ons. :lol:

But the slightly more serious question is, as an opener, should I be wary of anything that looks or comes across as "gay"?
Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:36 pm ]
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should I be wary of anything that looks or comes across as "gay"?
YES.

I did shit that was very similar, maybe not as hardcore as you, but along the same lines. I think it's actually almost a logical consequence of the indirect method. Fly SO under the fucking radar she'll NEVER reject you!

Yes, you may well make some awesome female friends this way, which may help you short-term in being social and understanding women better, but

THEY'LL NEVER FUCK YOU

EVER.

Now it's time to do a complete shift and try the opposite.

Tell women IMMEDIATELY that you find them attractive and you want to get to know them. Be direct and honest about your romantic interest. Be a sexual threat.

You will get blown out more. This is a fact of life. But you're already having a 0% success rate with what you're doing now, so you might as well try something new right? The plus side is, the ones that stick around DEFINITELY WANT TO FUCK YOU. All that's left to you is to have a fun conversation, find out stuff about them, escalate and close.
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