Thank you for the replies guys. I really appreciate it. They have given me a couple of ideas.

I didnt get into the specific details because I guess I felt a bit guilty telling anyone about this. It is a secret and I promised to her and to myself that I wouldn't tell anyone about it. But since this is anonymous and for the better of our relationship, I'll fill you all in on the details.

I guess I didn't mention that I actually like this girl as more than a friend. I don't have oneitis as I've been still actively meeting new girls but this one friend of mine is truly a near perfect match for me in my eyes.

here's the full story:

So we had just seen a movie at the cinema at night (romantic comedy) which wasn't out of the norm. We had done that before and as a gay girl it's just two friends seeing a movie. She held my hand for a bit during the movie (she sometimes flirts in ways like this) and i often pretend to not like it / pull away so as to intensify her feelings and get her to do it more.

She wanted to hang out afterwards so I started driving to me house (again fairly normal behavior).

But the car on the way home was where it amped up.

She turned the heater up as hot as it would go and then she started meowing and showing her neck to me. She was leaning over to me side of the car and I was playing with her hair. It was getting really warm. I was getting near home and I thought she was acting different so I pulled over and suggested we take a nap (the heat was making us tired) that's when she leaned on me and I turned off the car with the heater still on.

And her neck was just there. She was trying to get warm infront of the car heater. I started playing with her hair as she was resting on my knee.

At this point I hesitated. I asked myself: is this happening? Is she waiting for me to make a move? I really didnt know what to do. We've bitten each other in 'play' before so I either just went and bit her neck or I said: "you're confusing me [girl]". To which she replied "why?" and I don't recall my response - maybe thats when I bit her.

From here things just escalated slowly. I kept kissing and biting her neck to which she didn't even flinch. (I just realised how fucked up this is). It was a strange angle but I moved onto the lower part of her chin, cheeks - my hands wandered as I did so. She was talking about semi-trivial things quickly - I think it was a nervous thing. She naturally talks a lot as well.

I paused from time to time resting my head on her chest and shoulder.

At one point I asked her how her girlfriend would feel if I kissed her and she laughed and said "she would be angry". So Fucked up.

I kept telling her I wouldnt kiss her (meaning not on the lips) all while inching closer to her mouth and exploring her.

The "breakpoint" came really REALLY suddenly.

you've probably had this before but we started breathing quicker and quicker in sync so that I could feel her warm breath. Then everything happen. My hand slid downwards and it went from there. No reistance. except I kept my word and didnt kiss her... well I might have once my hand got busy. But not before that.

My arm is cut deep from where she dug her nails into me.

And she just stopped because I guess she started thinking about her gf.

Last time we talked on the phone as I mentioned, she said she didn't enjoy it and she didn't like me as more than a friend... Yet she was definitely moaning at the time. I think she also said she was picturing her girlfriend in her head.

We are very comfortable talking to one another - we are very like minded people - but I don't understand her rationale for this situation. It can't be possible for her to have zero feelings for me can it?

Please tell me what you think. Even if you just think it's all fucked.


Ps. Writing on my iPhone while I'm interstate. Lol.

Here is a little lesbian 101. Most lesbians are not the man-hating, bull-dykes that people think of. The man-haters are either so fat and gross that no man will have them so they turn to women or they have been molested by their mom's boyfriend so they have a beef with men and have turned to women. Most natural lesbians still like a stiff dick now and then and still have a natural attraction and are subject to arousal by males. Think of them as sexual, not homo or heterosexual.

In your case you have had a long term emotional connection and you are hanging out with this chick and at some point you let your guard down and so your natural game came out and you flirted with this chick whether you intended to or not and she was comfortable enough that when the kino started she started to get aroused.

When you went into her pants she realized where things were going and came down with a textbook case of LMR and maybe a little ASD. You blew it by breaking the set and taking her home and dropping her off. If you had played it like any other LMR you would be writing a lay report right now instead of bellyaching about how to keep yourself in the friendzone with some carpet muncher.

Here is my advice, play this one like a swinger since she has a commited partner. At this point do NOTHING. When you get home and you bump into her again, play it like everything is cool and you are still buddies and that nothing unusual happened. If she brings it up or acts wierd just tell her that you think she is an attractive and desirable woman and it was all natural and that you still like her and value her friendship.

If she says anything about her relationship HONOR and RESPECT her relationship and say you will not do anything to come between them or cause them any discomfort.

BUT -

Offer to her that if she and her girlfriend would like to have a man join them that you would respect their relationship and keep everything strictly between the 3 of you and that you will go to your grave with that knowledge.

BETTER YET -

Read Style's account of the Dual Induction Massage method of seducting two women together in the book The Game. That does work if done properly. The key is you are getting them to touch and arouse and seduce each other while you are physically present with them.

this is entirely wrong and you are categorizing a broad group of people. lesbians are born lesbian and have no sexual attraction to men similar to gay men.

on the other hand, a woman who can get sexually aroused by males is bi, not a lesbian.

think of it as gay men who have had dad issues, have had girlfriends, been married or fuck women here and there for fun- these dont mean that they are straight or are not reasons they are gay.

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How should i have played it out?

She's going to want to hang out and talk about it, and I'm only in town for a few days before I go to another city again (busy month). So I might have to organize the meeting or I won't see her for another week. She will probably be quite stressed. she's going to ask me if I like her as more than a friend - so you want me to tell her I do and that I still want to be friends? How should I react when she says she doesn't like me as more than a friend?

I think what you have suggested contradicts itself. If I tell her that I value her friendship and respect her relationship then saying "I would be interested in joining you for a threesome" is completely disrespectful. It shows that I don't really believe her relationship is real. It's going to make any attempt to reestablish trust just seem like a stab to get in her pants.

As for the Dual Inducton Massage. I do remember that in the book and I think it could work however I don't often see them in a situation where it could possibly happen. It will be especially difficult now since she will probably be trying to distance her girlfriend from me, and her girlfriend is being told a lie about what happened too.

I like the ideas you provided - are you speaking from experience with lesbians?

In my youth I dated a lesbian for 3 years and hung out with her lesbian buddies all the time. I have worked in hospitals for over 25 years and for some reason there seems to be a ton of them in that industry..

I am married to a bisexual woman and we are swingers and darn near every single woman in the swinger community is bisexual so trust me, I know my Lickalottapusses better than any paleantologist out there..

Almost every single one of the women I knew that swore they were strictly lesbian in their early 20s now have husbands and families. Even in their youth the vast majority of them had boyfriends at some point or another and ALL of them had had various sexual encounters with men.

Whether people are born with their orientation or become one or the other will be debated to the end of time but what is fact is that people fall on a spectrum that ranges from completely straight to completely gay with everything in between. Most men fall either on the straight or gay ends of the spectrum but women are spread throughout the spectrum. .

Women are 'sexual' and whether they are homo sexual or hetero sexual at any point in time depends on huge number of variables..

Bottom line is lesbians/bisexuals do like dick from time to time.

Again, you are generalizing an entire group of people based on YOUR OWN experience. Clearly, you don't know all the lesbians. Similarly, I am also speaking from my own experience having been a dj at a gay club, volunteering at gay pride and being surrounded by gays/lesbians living here in San Francisco.
So? That doesn't prove anything about lesbians.
Again, these women are bi. And so what if they swore they were lesbian at the time? Maybe they were confused? This happens all the time. I know a gay dude who worked with me at the club and also worked at a bath house and told me 95% of his clients were straight men who wanted men on the side but were happily married and their wives had no clue. Does this somehow mean that ALL men crave dick from time to time? Furthermore, there are gay men in the com. that have had girlfriends and have been married but now like men. Does this mean they secretly crave wet pussy from time to time?

Surely, these answers are complex but none of this is enough to come to the conclusion that ALL lesbians want dick from time to time (or ALL gay men want pussy from time to time).
I agree on his but I also think part of why more women are bisexual is because society openly accepts it more as opposed to a thousand years ago where bisexuality is more common among men. This still does not prove however, that all lesbians want dick.
And men are not sexual? Sounds more like an excuse on your part to justify your own fantasies. We all have them but we also have to accept reality.
Bisexuals yes, lesbians no. This is the same creepy mentality a rapist has- the woman must want the dick. Perhaps, you cant fathom the fact that some women are born that way and have no attraction to men. You dont need to think a woman is a man hater because of this either.

Bottom line- there is a scale, everyone falls somewhere on the spectrum. Can't generalize.

End of story brah/