PUA Forum :: use of texting to make women fall for you

First off, when you are trying to seduce a girl and you want her to dig you.

NEVER EVER GIVE COMPLIMENTS unless it's after the sex.

You'll problebly wonder why? Woman like to hear compliments! This is true, yeah. But when a woman doesn't hear compliments coming from you, she is wondering if you find her attractive, she is wondering if you wish to kiss her or if you wish to have sex with her. Seriously, the moment that you give a girl a compliment about her looks, she KNOWS she has the upper hand in the entire situation.

+ the given statement that pretty much each pathethic guy says at a given time "you're hot" or "you're cute" or "you're gorgeous".. Rather do something like this.. "You know, that dress you are wearing.. it makes you look really good."
What you're doing here is complimenting her on her dress, not on her. She can take it 2 ways, kinda of neggish or kinda as a genuine compliment.. the clue in this is that it's orginal not cheesy! It's neither ment as a compliment either!

& oohh god, never ever take a girl to the movies! Sigh, it's the lamest thing in the dating scene and it's pretty much the easiest place to go to with a girl. A girl KNOWS this, if she's going to the movies with you.. she already said, I want to make out.
Why? Because that's what you do in the movies with a girl. Simple.. Yeah okay, it's our goal making out and stuff.. but if you want to make it more sexual.. do something more sexual.

Try going climbing, or contact sport.. go do something crazy. Don't do something that everybody does, remember, you need to make her believe you're the ultimate guy for her! You're not going to do that with movies!

Basically I have to do everything that makes me feel uncomfortable, or that I would never do naturally to a woman I'm interested in.

No more movies, no more compliments. Confidence is an issue I have and she'll pick up on it anyway. She probably knows I am a virgin too

Did I do a good job by not replying when the hot girl (slut) asked me to hang out?
What do I do with her now? I want to use her as a test and see how far I can get her.

Some lines I have in my head:

"not bad for an 18 year old. You'd have a chance with me if I was younger "

"that dress makes you look hot, and those earrings turn me on"
Does this fall in the category of the cheesy unconfident beta guy?
Okay you're complimenting her clothes but you do give her a compliment

Or a bit more offensive depending on how you say it:
"You're cute. I'd go for you if you weren't so easy"

Your line is okay for me, i'm not a pro myself tho. But yeah, you did great by not going in on her invitation if she is a slut. Keep distancing her, but if you wish to use her as a test. Only text with her, but when you see her, neg her like shit. She'll keep hanging on to you until you give in. But remember, don't go affirmative to her "you're hot" or anything of that! You need to practise your upper hand, this is the way!

Last one never say it.

But you can always try this one for a change; it worked with me.
If she compliments you or she's fishing for one herself do something like this
"Well, that dress is actually really amazing -- the dress makes you look good"
STRESS the DRESS, not her.. when you say this. When you even say "you", look away from her.. neg her!

≠ LD

Dude, do yourself a favor, just remove any form of "You're hot" from your vocabulary. Like LyricalDream said, you mustn't just hand out compliments like that.

Whether you like it or not, she gets approached many times a day and has to choose from all the guys trying to talk to her. If you want to win this competition in her mind, you have to fight the fight, play the game, and these are the rules of that game.

Author:	NoMoreMrNiceGuy [ Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:23 pm ]
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I met an amazing woman online last week, she's in her early 40s and a relationship expert. She knows the tricks to get women to fall for you and has advised me to stop being friends with any hot girl that I know. Because friendship with them will lead to misery afterwards. I need to make my point with them very clear and stop being an emotional doormat. I was on the verge of becoming the emotional gheyfriend that listens to their misery. Now I want to be the bad boy who doesn't give a fuck and wants to have pussy. Seriously So now I am working on my new bad boy image which is what attracts women. The woman advised me to use controversial texting with a very strong, male, confident approach in it to make sure what my point is. No friendly cuddle texts More like " We should go to the movies this evening. You're hot " which is male and confident whereas " Would you go to the movies with me this week? I think you're sexy " is insecure, unattractive and a recipe for failure. I may never give women a choice and I have to back off if they show 1 IOD So I sent some controversial texts to multiple single women, and waited for their replies. Now it seems that some are interested. She advises the push/pull method which means not replying instantly, and try to be indifferent so they want me more. But occasionally I have to give them something. It's been 2 days since my strong approach towards women and now they are texting me. How do I proceed? At this point I'm not replying to get into their heads. If you know controversial type of texts with a strong message that have a high teasing factor, I'd be delighted if you post them here.

Author:	DboTheHero [ Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:24 pm ]
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I don't think that style of texting or communicating is really 'controversial' as such, it's just decisive and confident; manly traits which are attractive to girls. And don't just think of that as being a text thing, incorporate the confidence and push/pull stuff into your personality and you'll get yet more success with women. It's not really being a 'bad boy', it's just being alpha. Having said that, regarding texting, I would keep them short and direct - "We should go to the movies this evening." I like this text, straight to the point. Not so much the you're hot bit, as she instantly knows what's on your mind and you're giving her a compliment before she's earned it. ~Deebo

Author:	Fireball [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:27 am ]
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Yep the advice is sound advice, but you're doing it wrong. "You're hot" is something you should probably never ever tell her, except maybe in bed. She hears it a dozen times a day. Don't be one of those guys. Try to make jokes with innuendo.. don't worry about going too far and offending her, I have never managed to offend any girl with a text message.. if anything they appreciate that you had the balls to say something like that. Example 1: Her: When can we meet You: Can't wait to get your hands on me, huh? Example 2: Her: Can you give me a ride home? You: We've been talking for just a few minutes and you're already thinking of riding me? You naughty girl! etc.

Author:	NoMoreMrNiceGuy [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:52 pm ]
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@ fireball and DBO Sound advice from both of you, I can tell. I am willing to change, in fact I need to. I have made great progress in just a few days but I need some serious finetuning about what I have been doing wrong. The woman advised me to text a few girls (that have given me IOIs), making sure that my intention is to be lovers and not friends. So I texted this one girl. The woman told me to send this " Hey. I was just thinking of you. We should go out" --> Short, clear and to the point. Girl instantly replies: "Why were you thinking about me?" So she wants to know where she's at. The woman told me NOT to reply to her question and keep her guessing. I replied with " What kind of guy doesn't want to date a hot girl? I wanna take you to the movies tomorrow " She didn't reply to my proposal to go out. Instead she sent me something like " do you know this girl? blabla.. " trying to change the subject. The woman said she is a drama queen looking for attention and that I should stop making an effort for her, immediately, and I did. Why do you think it's wrong to say something like "you're hot" when you are using the push/pull method? My intention is not to give too many compliments, but if you don't say something like this you don't make sure your intention is to be lovers and not friends. I have been the emotional gayfriend for too long and I am fucking full of it. No more BS, I want pussy. I thought the right approach was to say smth like "you're hot" (= pull) and then back off when she replies (=push) What is wrong with my approach so far and how do I adjust?

Author:	NoMoreMrNiceGuy [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:06 pm ]
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And about teasing. That is an art. The 2 teases above are good, but I don't know if they make a woman realize you don't want to be friends. And to be honest, now I've read both of your replies it seems that you don't want her to know that you are interested in her sexually? An other girl is a total slut, but she's very hot. I don't want a romantic relationship with her, but I want to test if I can get her to fall for me. Yesterday she texted me "want to hang out?" and I did not reply. Whereas usually I reply instantly and go to her place bc she's hot and I enjoy her attention. I have hidden in the friend zone and I'm full of it. The girl is a total whore, French kissing 6 different guys per week on average at the age of 18. Anyone can have her, but guys that ignore her and abuse her turn her on. How do I proceed with her? Was not replying a good move? I tend to give her too many compliments and listen to her BS. I want to change gears but need your advice for it

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Author:	LyricalDream [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:14 pm ]
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First off, when you are trying to seduce a girl and you want her to dig you. NEVER EVER GIVE COMPLIMENTS unless it's after the sex. You'll problebly wonder why? Woman like to hear compliments! This is true, yeah. But when a woman doesn't hear compliments coming from you, she is wondering if you find her attractive, she is wondering if you wish to kiss her or if you wish to have sex with her. Seriously, the moment that you give a girl a compliment about her looks, she KNOWS she has the upper hand in the entire situation. + the given statement that pretty much each pathethic guy says at a given time "you're hot" or "you're cute" or "you're gorgeous".. Rather do something like this.. "You know, that dress you are wearing.. it makes you look really good." What you're doing here is complimenting her on her dress, not on her. She can take it 2 ways, kinda of neggish or kinda as a genuine compliment.. the clue in this is that it's orginal not cheesy! It's neither ment as a compliment either! & oohh god, never ever take a girl to the movies! Sigh, it's the lamest thing in the dating scene and it's pretty much the easiest place to go to with a girl. A girl KNOWS this, if she's going to the movies with you.. she already said, I want to make out. Why? Because that's what you do in the movies with a girl. Simple.. Yeah okay, it's our goal making out and stuff.. but if you want to make it more sexual.. do something more sexual. Try going climbing, or contact sport.. go do something crazy. Don't do something that everybody does, remember, you need to make her believe you're the ultimate guy for her! You're not going to do that with movies!

Author:	NoMoreMrNiceGuy [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:07 pm ]
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Quote: First off, when you are trying to seduce a girl and you want her to dig you. NEVER EVER GIVE COMPLIMENTS unless it's after the sex. You'll problebly wonder why? Woman like to hear compliments! This is true, yeah. But when a woman doesn't hear compliments coming from you, she is wondering if you find her attractive, she is wondering if you wish to kiss her or if you wish to have sex with her. Seriously, the moment that you give a girl a compliment about her looks, she KNOWS she has the upper hand in the entire situation. + the given statement that pretty much each pathethic guy says at a given time "you're hot" or "you're cute" or "you're gorgeous".. Rather do something like this.. "You know, that dress you are wearing.. it makes you look really good." What you're doing here is complimenting her on her dress, not on her. She can take it 2 ways, kinda of neggish or kinda as a genuine compliment.. the clue in this is that it's orginal not cheesy! It's neither ment as a compliment either! & oohh god, never ever take a girl to the movies! Sigh, it's the lamest thing in the dating scene and it's pretty much the easiest place to go to with a girl. A girl KNOWS this, if she's going to the movies with you.. she already said, I want to make out. Why? Because that's what you do in the movies with a girl. Simple.. Yeah okay, it's our goal making out and stuff.. but if you want to make it more sexual.. do something more sexual. Try going climbing, or contact sport.. go do something crazy. Don't do something that everybody does, remember, you need to make her believe you're the ultimate guy for her! You're not going to do that with movies! Basically I have to do everything that makes me feel uncomfortable, or that I would never do naturally to a woman I'm interested in. No more movies, no more compliments. Confidence is an issue I have and she'll pick up on it anyway. She probably knows I am a virgin too Did I do a good job by not replying when the hot girl (slut) asked me to hang out? What do I do with her now? I want to use her as a test and see how far I can get her. Some lines I have in my head: "not bad for an 18 year old. You'd have a chance with me if I was younger " "that dress makes you look hot, and those earrings turn me on" Does this fall in the category of the cheesy unconfident beta guy? Okay you're complimenting her clothes but you do give her a compliment Or a bit more offensive depending on how you say it: "You're cute. I'd go for you if you weren't so easy"

Author:	LyricalDream [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:30 pm ]
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Quote: Basically I have to do everything that makes me feel uncomfortable, or that I would never do naturally to a woman I'm interested in. No more movies, no more compliments. Confidence is an issue I have and she'll pick up on it anyway. She probably knows I am a virgin too Did I do a good job by not replying when the hot girl (slut) asked me to hang out? What do I do with her now? I want to use her as a test and see how far I can get her. Some lines I have in my head: "not bad for an 18 year old. You'd have a chance with me if I was younger " "that dress makes you look hot, and those earrings turn me on" Does this fall in the category of the cheesy unconfident beta guy? Okay you're complimenting her clothes but you do give her a compliment Or a bit more offensive depending on how you say it: "You're cute. I'd go for you if you weren't so easy" Don't do what makes you feel uncomfortable. It's not worth getting messed up about a girl. If you really don't want to do it, then don't. I wouldn't have done it either in the beginning, but now I'm glad I'm doing these guys of things. My key is that, witholding the oppurtunity for her to have the power over you by holding the power yourself, gives you a lot of selfesteem. You need to make sure you are happy with yourself before you start doing techniques or trics. I know it's not easy, i'm still working things out myself, trust me. But yeah well, it's actually all about yourself. If you don't believe in yourself, you won't get anywhere. Just a tric I learnt.. everytime you go out or something, put on some records that you like to hear, that get your vibe up. Say EVERY sentence that you ever gotten from a girl that compliments you, do that when your in front of the mirror, smile when you do it! Your line is okay for me, i'm not a pro myself tho. But yeah, you did great by not going in on her invitation if she is a slut. Keep distancing her, but if you wish to use her as a test. Only text with her, but when you see her, neg her like shit. She'll keep hanging on to you until you give in. But remember, don't go affirmative to her "you're hot" or anything of that! You need to practise your upper hand, this is the way! Last one never say it. But you can always try this one for a change; it worked with me. If she compliments you or she's fishing for one herself do something like this "Well, that dress is actually really amazing -- the dress makes you look good" STRESS the DRESS, not her.. when you say this. When you even say "you", look away from her.. neg her! ≠ LD

Author:	Fireball [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:09 pm ]
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Dude, do yourself a favor, just remove any form of "You're hot" from your vocabulary. Like LyricalDream said, you mustn't just hand out compliments like that. Think of it like buying a used car, and you want to get the lowest price possible. If you go see the car and you think it looks amazing, you don't say "WOW that car looks AMAZING! It's so sexy! Ok I want the car, but $4000 is too much, I'll give you $3500 for it." The seller will just smile and refuse to lower the price, because you already screamed that the value of the car exceeds your expectations for the money. The same with women, if you scream at her that she's gorgeous, she'll think that her value exceeds your value. See what I'm saying? If you think it's amazing, that's nice, keep it to yourself. If you think getting a woman is not like haggling over the price of a used car and I'm being offensive to womankind, you're wrong. For a hot girl, attraction is a sort of battle. Whether you like it or not, she gets approached many times a day and has to choose from all the guys trying to talk to her. If you want to win this competition in her mind, you have to fight the fight, play the game, and these are the rules of that game.

Author:	Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:42 pm ]
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Quote: Dude, do yourself a favor, just remove any form of "You're hot" from your vocabulary. Like LyricalDream said, you mustn't just hand out compliments like that. Whether you like it or not, she gets approached many times a day and has to choose from all the guys trying to talk to her. If you want to win this competition in her mind, you have to fight the fight, play the game, and these are the rules of that game. I buy this only to the extent that, in club game, if your value is very low (i.e. you're standing around by yourself looking nervous, and then approach) then a compliment will come off as rapport seeking and value sucking (the classic "nice-guy" attitude of trying to win favour with buying her shit or not risking breaking rapport). HOWEVER, opening with a balls-out, confident approach and a compliment, and acting congruent with that frame - body-language, tonality and delivery wise - is a GREAT way to begin an interaction, precisely because very FEW men do this during the day at all, and possibly at night but usually when they're very drunk. The frame to set is basically the idea that something about her (her beauty, the way she carries herself, her fashion, etc.) really struck you and you had to come over and find out more about her. In this way, you're saying "yeah, so you have something going for you I like, now, what kind of PERSON are you, let's get to know each other." In that way, you're not putting all your cards on the table and giving her lots of power, because she has to still work to show she's cool and interesting and fun, and you can give her tons of qualification and compliance hoops to jump through to maintain dominance over the situation, screen, and get her to emotionally invest in the interaction with you. However, starting with the compliment shows your sexual intent right off the bat, so if she isn't at all interested, you'll know and won't spend 30 minutes ploughing before she says she has a boyfriend or is a lesbian. Finally, even if you're going very indirect (the pussy way out in my opinion) and you get to the qualification and comfort stage after 30 minutes or an hour of pussyfooting around the issue, you still have to compliment her on SOMETHING about herself after she's opened up to you about all this stuff and you're trying to connect with her on some kind of meaningful emotional level. What are you gonna do when she tells you about having to raise her sister and brother because her dad walked out when she was 3 and this has made her a really strong person emotionally? Neg her?

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