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Author:  cutflow [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:39 am ]
Post subject:  advanced PUA question (becoming a guru)
hey whats up. i'm new to the scene. wish i started this long time ago. now that i know about it i want to become a mPUA or a PUA guru. first i want to prepare myself before i go out there. i want to go out there strapped and loaded.

so my question is, what are the skills i need to become a mPUA/guru. i will list some below that i already know and as you'll noticed, i'm quite organized. after i list them, i want you to name a few more that i might be missing, etc things i need to know in order to become a guru.

beginner
-approaching
-building attraction
-DHV
-teasing
-comfort building
-direct game
-indirect game
-frame/positioning
-opening
-counter-bitch sheild


intermediate
-breaking rapport
-creating connection
-IOI
-kino
-seduction (sexual escalate)
-relationship enhancement
-closing
-LMR
-C&F

advanced
-?

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and yeah thats about all i know. can you guys fill in the remaining of the blanks or re-arrange the order of what you guru's see fit.

thanks in advance. this is what i ask for, then i will begin studying and researching. i understand you have recommendations and suggestions but i have already made my decision of being accurate, with precised predictions of what my next step would be. and in order for me to complete this i need to know the rules, study them then practice like a mother Funk star.

please stay on topic and thanks in advance!!
Author:  MynameisFisher [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:28 am ]
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You say you want to be a guru or mPUA and you forgot to put the "Teaching others" skill there. :) And you don't need fuckin' magic tricks. You can have them but that's not what will make you a mPUA. Experience, patience and a hundred full closes most likely would but not evidently.
Plus I don't get how is kino listed in the intermediate section while seduction is there in the beginner. You will never seduce a girl without kino. Besides I don't understand that 'IOI' either. Is that recognization of IOIs? Or usage of IOIs? Or correct response to IOIs? Because recognizing is absolutely beginner skill the other two may be intermediate. Countering the bitch-shield is also beginner skill. Beginners can do that with learning some routines it's easy. I would also add beating LMR to intermediate skills. And I would also split attraction building. A beginner would most likely create most of the attraction with DHV and teasing. While an intermediate could use c&f very effectively because he is sexually more comfortable than a beginner(that's why beginners blow out much with c&f) . A mPUA can create attraction just by his simple presence. Also adding to intermediate skills:
-Beating Resistance (not LMR but the one that applies to you and does not let you to be in state)
-Being outside of your head and in the moment(the above one is a prerequisite for this)
Oh and I almost forgot. A beginner should know when it is blown.

So after you have mastered all these skills and getting laid has become a simple OPTION to you, plus you are able to teach others, maybe you can call yourself a guru :) I hope I helped I guess the others will tell you what I forgot to mention because I'm sure there is some stuff...
Author:  wizard99 [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:58 am ]
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hey guys...how do i deal with noisy places??..
:D
Author:  Jav [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:21 am ]
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copy & pasting other guru material and watering it down gets you pretty far
:roll:

If you really want to start teaching other guys.

Try getting good with women yourself first.

Then learn how to teach guys this stuff.
Author:  LD [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:22 am ]
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Quote:
hey guys...how do i deal with noisy places??..
:D
Ask them to turn the music off just for you...

Common amigo,

if the music is too loud, go someplace else, preferably with the girl.

ciao
Author:  cutflow [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:38 am ]
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Quote:
You say you want to be a guru or mPUA and you forgot to put the "Teaching others" skill there. :) And you don't need fuckin' magic tricks. You can have them but that's not what will make you a mPUA. Experience, patience and a hundred full closes most likely would but not evidently.
Plus I don't get how is kino listed in the intermediate section while seduction is there in the beginner. You will never seduce a girl without kino. Besides I don't understand that 'IOI' either. Is that recognization of IOIs? Or usage of IOIs? Or correct response to IOIs? Because recognizing is absolutely beginner skill the other two may be intermediate. Countering the bitch-shield is also beginner skill. Beginners can do that with learning some routines it's easy. I would also add beating LMR to intermediate skills. And I would also split attraction building. A beginner would most likely create most of the attraction with DHV and teasing. While an intermediate could use c&f very effectively because he is sexually more comfortable than a beginner(that's why beginners blow out much with c&f) . A mPUA can create attraction just by his simple presence. Also adding to intermediate skills:
-Beating Resistance (not LMR but the one that applies to you and does not let you to be in state)
-Being outside of your head and in the moment(the above one is a prerequisite for this)
Oh and I almost forgot. A beginner should know when it is blown.

So after you have mastered all these skills and getting laid has become a simple OPTION to you, plus you are able to teach others, maybe you can call yourself a guru :) I hope I helped I guess the others will tell you what I forgot to mention because I'm sure there is some stuff...
ok so if you check out m y first post again, i have updated it. IOI means (Indications of interest)

i need you to tell me what DHV, LMR and C&F is all about and what they mean

also would flirting go well along with teasing under beginner?

also check out my first post again and see what could i be missing/
Author:  MynameisFisher [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:17 pm ]
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Quote:
Quote:
You say you want to be a guru or mPUA and you forgot to put the "Teaching others" skill there. :) And you don't need fuckin' magic tricks. You can have them but that's not what will make you a mPUA. Experience, patience and a hundred full closes most likely would but not evidently.
Plus I don't get how is kino listed in the intermediate section while seduction is there in the beginner. You will never seduce a girl without kino. Besides I don't understand that 'IOI' either. Is that recognization of IOIs? Or usage of IOIs? Or correct response to IOIs? Because recognizing is absolutely beginner skill the other two may be intermediate. Countering the bitch-shield is also beginner skill. Beginners can do that with learning some routines it's easy. I would also add beating LMR to intermediate skills. And I would also split attraction building. A beginner would most likely create most of the attraction with DHV and teasing. While an intermediate could use c&f very effectively because he is sexually more comfortable than a beginner(that's why beginners blow out much with c&f) . A mPUA can create attraction just by his simple presence. Also adding to intermediate skills:
-Beating Resistance (not LMR but the one that applies to you and does not let you to be in state)
-Being outside of your head and in the moment(the above one is a prerequisite for this)
Oh and I almost forgot. A beginner should know when it is blown.

So after you have mastered all these skills and getting laid has become a simple OPTION to you, plus you are able to teach others, maybe you can call yourself a guru :) I hope I helped I guess the others will tell you what I forgot to mention because I'm sure there is some stuff...
ok so if you check out m y first post again, i have updated it. IOI means (Indications of interest)

i need you to tell me what DHV, LMR and C&F is all about and what they mean

also would flirting go well along with teasing under beginner?

also check out my first post again and see what could i be missing/
I know what's IOI. But how that is a 'skill' I don't get it. If you don't get IOIs you're fucked no matter what level are you on. DHV='Demonstration of Higher Value' This is typically a story in which you don't really polish your values but it communicates them eg.: some funny story on a sport event you've been to. LMR means 'Last Minute Resistance' It's when you're just before sex and the girl resists. Common issue for one-night stands and virgin girls but an intermediate should already know how to deal with it(I always say best is just to give her your cock that works most of the time. When not, well there are other bitches out there I won't work my ass off for every single one). C&F='Cocky and Funny.' It's a strong tool that enables you flirting while still remaining dominant and showing value plus sexual comfortiblity. The base concept of c&f is to in some way insult her but balance it by placing it in a funny context. It's also a great way of countering shit tests. Like:'Is this your pickup line or something?' you can go
'whoa whoa, I don't think you'd have the money to support me, you know I'd like a rich girl who can care for both of us why I do the hard work of looking after the TV. Some are really nasty.'
Author:  HitTheLightsPumpTheStrobe [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:39 pm ]
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Ok first of all, pretty sure fisher knows what IOI means. Maybe read his post again? It should come under beginner, its really not hard to notice a girl playing with her hair or looking at you, unless your blind, in which case im not actually sure how youve navigated yourself here.

Now basically:

DHV- Demonstrate higher value- Show that your fun and live an attractive lifestyle, that your not just another loser.

LMR- Last minute resistance- The moment when you've managed to get a girl in the bedroom, you're just about to put on a dinger when suddenly, she doesnt want to have sex anymore because she feels like a slut. So somehow you have to make her want to again.

C&F- Cocky and funny- Making fun of a girl in a funny way. So your being an asshole but she finds it funny. Alot like teasing or being a smartass.

My advice- Read through the posts in Approaching and opening, make your way through Mid Game, and then read up about closing and day 2's. in fact read through the whole forum, all the information you need is here.
Then once your done, actually get out there and start having sex with girls. like fisher says, once it becomes an option to you and your able to help other by teaching them. then youll be a mpua. Its one thing to know about the game, it's a whole other thing to have game.
Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:54 pm ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
copy & pasting other guru material and watering it down gets you pretty far
:roll:

If you really want to start teaching other guys.

Try getting good with women yourself first.

Then learn how to teach guys this stuff.
This

lol
Author:  xxIcexx [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:00 pm ]
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Why dont you read mystery method first? It has tons of info and examples, rather than just begging here and getting sarcastic comments which I feel very inclined to make lol.
Author:  Hakuna [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:16 pm ]
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You are reversing the order. You don't learn game first and then suddenly have the ability to approach women. You approach women first to develop game. Knowing a thousand different pua techniques will do nothing for a man with no confidence in his game.

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