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| Author: | thinhman [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Day Game- direct approach |
It there a reason going direct is better during the day? |
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| Author: | farismagic [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Day Game- direct approach |
Some say yes, some say no... but in my opinion i rather go INDIRECT with a general question then have a rutein ready to build attraction and keno. and if u go DIRECT you find out if the girl is interested the first 1 minute. INDIRECT you might just be wasting your time but its less pressure for me it does the job |
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| Author: | thinhman [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:37 pm ] |
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How would you open with an indirect approach? Do YOU use a canned line? |
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| Author: | farismagic [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:43 pm ] |
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Indirect in a restaurant for example you can im just out here to buy lunch for my GF or any of ur friend family members? its just very general. like where does this bus go" DO they sell bla bla in this bla bla mall? after every question make a DHV story why ur asking such as im looking for a bla bla to get my brother for his birthday or for my gf for her bday (the gf one is the unbreakable opener as GAMBLER explained) and you can go ur rutein from then to build attraction keno. after opening |
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| Author: | Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:12 pm ] |
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The reasons are numerous i. If you stop a girl walking down the street and ask something, her first thought is "why of all the people on the street did he choose me?" Opinion openers make no sense, and directions and the time lead to a couple of word responses at best and then they walk away. You have to transition at some point anyway, and you have to show you're interested in her sexually at some point, so why not do it IMMEDIATELY? ii. Following on from above, why bother hiding your true intentions from her for even a second? If you think she's hot, go up and tell her she's hot! This accomplishes so many things: a. It shows you're confident b. It shows you're willing to go and get what you want in life c. It shows that you're comfortable dealing with women d. It shows you're unafraid about rejection => i.e. just your OPENER is a massive DHV and a huge attraction spike. It compresses about 15-20 minutes of indirect routines into ONE SENTENCE. iii. It's incredibly efficient. By immediately telling a girl you're into her, she'll tell you immediately if she's interested or not. You're wasting 1 minute per "rejection" instead of 15-20 minutes of indirect bullshit before you find out she's got a boyfriend or something. iv. It brightens up her day. Even if she's taken or doesn't find you attractive, she'll often still thank you for saying a nice compliment to her. I've heard girls apologise for having a boyfriend, thank me for "making their day" and received tons of beaming smiles. You just don't get that from asking for directions. Furthermore, it gives you a bunch of time to transition as she expects you to continue the interaction and hit on her more |
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| Author: | thinhman [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:25 pm ] |
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WOuldn't the cat and string theory apply here? If you tell her you like her, then she won't be as interested? Maybe? ^^;; |
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| Author: | jellysandwich5 [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:05 pm ] |
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When you're starting off and your body language isn't up to par, the girls often feel anxious and nervous when you go direct. What can you do in those cases? How do you keep practicing on something that is difficult to guage like body language? |
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| Author: | LD [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:19 pm ] |
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Quote: WOuldn't the cat and string theory apply here?
Bullshit. if you go 'indirect', she might as well not be interested, but follow along for the sake of politeness. If you tell her you like her, then she won't be as interested? Maybe? ^^;; I kinda start hating this bullshit of trying to get into peoples head like that. There is no way you can tell 100% for sure what is going on in a persons head, just by words. If you want to know for sure, you need to 'force' them to react, because actions speak more truth then words will ever do. Quote: he reasons are numerous
Now this is some good advice! I would say, right on!i. If you stop a girl walking down the street and ask something, her first thought is "why of all the people on the street did he choose me?" Opinion openers make no sense, and directions and the time lead to a couple of word responses at best and then they walk away. You have to transition at some point anyway, and you have to show you're interested in her sexually at some point, so why not do it IMMEDIATELY? ii. Following on from above, why bother hiding your true intentions from her for even a second? If you think she's hot, go up and tell her she's hot! This accomplishes so many things: a. It shows you're confident b. It shows you're willing to go and get what you want in life c. It shows that you're comfortable dealing with women d. It shows you're unafraid about rejection => i.e. just your OPENER is a massive DHV and a huge attraction spike. It compresses about 15-20 minutes of indirect routines into ONE SENTENCE. iii. It's incredibly efficient. By immediately telling a girl you're into her, she'll tell you immediately if she's interested or not. You're wasting 1 minute per "rejection" instead of 15-20 minutes of indirect bullshit before you find out she's got a boyfriend or something. iv. It brightens up her day. Even if she's taken or doesn't find you attractive, she'll often still thank you for saying a nice compliment to her. I've heard girls apologise for having a boyfriend, thank me for "making their day" and received tons of beaming smiles. You just don't get that from asking for directions. Furthermore, it gives you a bunch of time to transition as she expects you to continue the interaction and hit on her more Smile ciao |
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| Author: | Moreno [ Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:40 am ] |
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blondguy check the back and forth posts i had with k-loc on his "Think it's hard to approach;imagine being approached" topic he started on approaching and opening section.I realised why guys and girls are soft on trying to go with direct approaches,it's all about protecting ourselves from rejection,all the guys out there that despite going direct,and are religious indirect openning fans,they're just trying to keep their ego away from personal rejection,it's mind buzzling |
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| Author: | farismagic [ Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:38 am ] |
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I agree with Moreno. way to suck up LD. its easy to say ..so what if i get rejected.. but once u get rejected you start having doubts and feel little depressed especially when you don't know where you went wrong. But again this forum helps a lot so i ask here nice people. ye Indirect takes me at least 15 min to get the number but it works. but im having problem texting they dun remember me usually cuz i text after a week but i don't know if it matters. I need a good text when the say who's this. I agree with you blondeguy but indirect and direct are different but ofc its harder to direct |
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| Author: | duckbill88 [ Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:53 am ] |
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blondguy hit the nail on the head, there isn't as many girls in day game as there is in club game, so im backin blondguy on getting in there direct, number close quicky, and move onto the next bird. heres my routine (feedback or tips would be good, yew!) for my day game(and works amazing at festivals), i use direct. how i go about it is, just be walking along, and sometimes you will catch their eye if there walking towards you, doesn't matter if not. and ill grab her attention and say, "im on my way to (Time constraint) and i noticed something about you, and had to risk imbarrisment to come and talk to you." from there she might ask "what did you notice?" from which i would go into my Perfect Smile routine or C vs U smile routine.(u know what to say) if she doesn't ask, i would run with "out of all the people i see walking from a to b, your the only one thats made me wanna embarris myself, why is that, what is it about you that draws me in?" (just an outline) then number close with something like "im glad i stoped and talked to you, how would i go about making it happin again" or "... ive gotta go, how do go about learning more about you?" then pause! then they will tell you how. tips: look sharp, peacock heaps of energy big smile and heaps of eye contact and have a interesting time constraint (im just on my way to get some turtle food for my pets and i saw you..) |
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| Author: | LD [ Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:01 am ] |
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Quote: I agree with Moreno. way to suck up LD. its easy to say ..so what if i get rejected.. but once u get rejected you start having doubts and feel little depressed especially when you don't know where you went wrong. But again this forum helps a lot so i ask here nice people. ye Indirect takes me at least 15 min to get the number but it works. but im having problem texting they dun remember me usually cuz i text after a week but i don't know if it matters. I need a good text when the say who's this. I agree with you blondeguy but indirect and direct are different but ofc its harder to direct
Hi man!Dont get me wrong, please. It is not that i am anti indirect game. But... indirect game in my eyes is a total different thing the for the most of you. But i ll post on that later on. Yes, i understand the doubts that come with rejection. Ive been there. Especially if you have put in so much energy and you seemed to get all of the good 'IOI' 's. I didnt get depressed, but the doubts were killing me. I firmly believed that it wasnt me, but my game. Eventually things started to change. I was sick of always going for the safe route. I was just plain sick of hiding my interest. Since then, things went way better. And i started asking myself how come. But more on that later. Point is: rejection still aches and stings, and it will never go away. But i have stopped wondering why and just accept reality. So i screwed up... NEEEXT!!! Yeah, you are right, it is easy to say, and very hard to do. But i stick to my point: always looking for the easy 'assured' way will get you nowhere. Now back on your question: if you get her number, dont wait till next week. Text her the same day. Something in the line of: hey, we met today! Now you have my number as well. What are you doing this weekend btw?. You asked her number and she gave it to you. Why would you wait till next week in an attempt not to look needy or whatever it is PUA say about it? Seduction has a momentum, and this (at the start of it) is the time where you should keep the momentum. You should honestly self reflect about the actions you have taken and the reactions they provoked. If she doesnt text back, you should realize that the best thing you can do is....NEEEEXT!!! I wish you lots of luck! PS: i am not sucking up actually. There is no need though to repeat what an other man already said, and if its good advice, its good advice. ciao! |
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| Author: | new2game [ Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:43 am ] |
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Quote: Quote: I agree with Moreno. way to suck up LD. its easy to say ..so what if i get rejected.. but once u get rejected you start having doubts and feel little depressed especially when you don't know where you went wrong. But again this forum helps a lot so i ask here nice people. ye Indirect takes me at least 15 min to get the number but it works. but im having problem texting they dun remember me usually cuz i text after a week but i don't know if it matters. I need a good text when the say who's this. I agree with you blondeguy but indirect and direct are different but ofc its harder to direct
Hi man!Dont get me wrong, please. It is not that i am anti indirect game. But... indirect game in my eyes is a total different thing the for the most of you. But i ll post on that later on. Yes, i understand the doubts that come with rejection. Ive been there. Especially if you have put in so much energy and you seemed to get all of the good 'IOI' 's. I didnt get depressed, but the doubts were killing me. I firmly believed that it wasnt me, but my game. Eventually things started to change. I was sick of always going for the safe route. I was just plain sick of hiding my interest. Since then, things went way better. And i started asking myself how come. But more on that later. Point is: rejection still aches and stings, and it will never go away. But i have stopped wondering why and just accept reality. So i screwed up... NEEEXT!!! Yeah, you are right, it is easy to say, and very hard to do. But i stick to my point: always looking for the easy 'assured' way will get you nowhere. Now back on your question: if you get her number, dont wait till next week. Text her the same day. Something in the line of: hey, we met today! Now you have my number as well. What are you doing this weekend btw?. You asked her number and she gave it to you. Why would you wait till next week in an attempt not to look needy or whatever it is PUA say about it? Seduction has a momentum, and this (at the start of it) is the time where you should keep the momentum. You should honestly self reflect about the actions you have taken and the reactions they provoked. If she doesnt text back, you should realize that the best thing you can do is....NEEEEXT!!! I wish you lots of luck! PS: i am not sucking up actually. There is no need though to repeat what an other man already said, and if its good advice, its good advice. ciao! What the hell is wrong with guys thinking they have to wait 3 days? She won't text you back if you wait that long! Strike while the iron is hot |
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