PUA Forum :: A couple of good negs please

I dont like the word "neg". There's a few definitions that I dont like using that this community uses way too often. This being one of them.

Back-handed compliments, on the other hand, can be useful if your joking around with her. Tell her how much you love going out with girls with a little extra meat on their bones and rub her tummy. Things like that in a joking manner are amazing. It makes her feel less secure and she cant really get mad at you for saying it. Saying things like this will get those little gears grinding and if she really cares what you think of her, she'll fight tooth and nail to make herself more attractive to you.

Something simple as that is great. Dont be afraid to speak your mind but dont be insulting. Bust her balls on that shitty purse she's wielding around or call to attention those satellites hanging off of her ears. All the while keep the biggest, goofiest smile on your face. That isn't being an asshole or anything, your just playful. This is lethal in small doses, dont let this be the only thing coming out of your mouth. After busting her balls on it, tell her that she looks fabulous anyway. You'll love her no matter how horrific that purse is!

Negs do work best when a woman feels she is at her attractive peak. When she's out on the town all dolled up and looking like a million bucks. When she's sweaty and smelling like shit she'll know it and calling her attention on it will basically just be an insult. Talk about the actual gym, how long you've been going there, what you do there, why do you like it? Things to that nature. Trust me, when you talk with a woman long enough, she'll give her own material for you to neg her with so dont focus on that so much and just get IN there first.

Author:	Randy3375 [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:42 am ]
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I'm always runing into thes girls at the gym iv became frends with the obstical I was just wondering if anyone would like to share a couple negs to throw at my target next time I see her .The first incountet I compleatly ignored her because I whnt blank but I did conversate with her friends an they seem to like me ,I want to be ready for the next time I run into her !!!

Author:	Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:27 am ]
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You don't need to neg at all. The only time a neg might be useful is if you're in a club situation where the girl is expecting to be hit on. (Even then, being confident, direct and honest will still work). During the day, especially at the gym, she's not really expecting to be hit on (she's all sweaty and wearing crappy clothes and got an iPod on ffs!) You'd be far better off just introducing yourself since you already know her friends and just having a normal conversation. If you guys find a common interest then arrange a day 2 with her based on that, and exchange numbers. Done.

Author:	Solteris [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:19 am ]
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I dont like the word "neg". There's a few definitions that I dont like using that this community uses way too often. This being one of them. Back-handed compliments, on the other hand, can be useful if your joking around with her. Tell her how much you love going out with girls with a little extra meat on their bones and rub her tummy. Things like that in a joking manner are amazing. It makes her feel less secure and she cant really get mad at you for saying it. Saying things like this will get those little gears grinding and if she really cares what you think of her, she'll fight tooth and nail to make herself more attractive to you. Something simple as that is great. Dont be afraid to speak your mind but dont be insulting. Bust her balls on that shitty purse she's wielding around or call to attention those satellites hanging off of her ears. All the while keep the biggest, goofiest smile on your face. That isn't being an asshole or anything, your just playful. This is lethal in small doses, dont let this be the only thing coming out of your mouth. After busting her balls on it, tell her that she looks fabulous anyway. You'll love her no matter how horrific that purse is! Negs do work best when a woman feels she is at her attractive peak. When she's out on the town all dolled up and looking like a million bucks. When she's sweaty and smelling like shit she'll know it and calling her attention on it will basically just be an insult. Talk about the actual gym, how long you've been going there, what you do there, why do you like it? Things to that nature. Trust me, when you talk with a woman long enough, she'll give her own material for you to neg her with so dont focus on that so much and just get IN there first.

Author:	Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:22 pm ]
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Quote: I dont like the word "neg". There's a few definitions that I dont like using that this community uses way too often. This being one of them. Back-handed compliments, on the other hand, can be useful if your joking around with her. Tell her how much you love going out with girls with a little extra meat on their bones and rub her tummy. Things like that in a joking manner are amazing. It makes her feel less secure and she cant really get mad at you for saying it. Saying things like this will get those little gears grinding and if she really cares what you think of her, she'll fight tooth and nail to make herself more attractive to you. Something simple as that is great. Dont be afraid to speak your mind but dont be insulting. Bust her balls on that shitty purse she's wielding around or call to attention those satellites hanging off of her ears. All the while keep the biggest, goofiest smile on your face. That isn't being an asshole or anything, your just playful. This is lethal in small doses, dont let this be the only thing coming out of your mouth. After busting her balls on it, tell her that she looks fabulous anyway. You'll love her no matter how horrific that purse is! Negs do work best when a woman feels she is at her attractive peak. When she's out on the town all dolled up and looking like a million bucks. When she's sweaty and smelling like shit she'll know it and calling her attention on it will basically just be an insult. Talk about the actual gym, how long you've been going there, what you do there, why do you like it? Things to that nature. Trust me, when you talk with a woman long enough, she'll give her own material for you to neg her with so dont focus on that so much and just get IN there first. What you're talking about is "teasing" and "flirting." I am totally for those things. Busting on a girl when she does/says something retarded or likes something nerdy or anything like that, in a playful way, is the essence of creating fun sexual tension with a girl, and showing you have a strong frame and are not going around just agreeing with her and trying to build rapport. However, a NEG is defined as a backhanded compliment, as in "nice nails, are they real?" To me, this is a totally pointless thing to say. Coming from a classic rAFC who's probably quite socially uncalibrated, it will sound either purposely insulting, or like the guy is socially retarded and slipped up and was trying to say a compliment, but is nervous and accidentally insulted her, at which point she'll be like "what the hell did you just say?" No wonder guys on here complain about being "shit tested" all the time! Furthermore, the basis of teasing and flirting is generating a playful vibe with her that she enjoys, and shows that you understand how to communicate with women and is subcommunicating that you're into her, but you're not a pushover and she's gonna have to stay on her toes with you. The basis of the neg is the assumption that the woman is higher value that you, and you have to "knock her down a peg" and make her second-guess herself. It's also a "false disqualifier" i.e. a purposeful LIE to make her think that you're not actually interested in her. Again, WHY? Why not assume you're high value, and why not just be totally up front about the fact you think she's hot? Wouldn't that just be easier?

Author:	Scyth [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:18 pm ]
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Look her up and down and say "Is it your first time in the gym?" But she may come back with "Yes...I can tell it's your first time as well." When she's working out you could possibly try "That's an interesting technique...." then go with; "Where did you learn that one?" Or "What muscle is that meant to work?" Only works if she's not actually got good technique. Probably wouldn't neg her in the gym though. First date is probably better.

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Author:	Solteris [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:28 pm ]
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Quote: The basis of the neg is the assumption that the woman is higher value that you, and you have to "knock her down a peg" and make her second-guess herself. It's also a "false disqualifier" i.e. a purposeful LIE to make her think that you're not actually interested in her. Again, WHY? Why not assume you're high value, and why not just be totally up front about the fact you think she's hot? Wouldn't that just be easier? I understand where you're coming from but some girls need to be teased around a bit like this. (Hate the number rating but 9-10's) This wont work on all girls and girls who are considered average wont take it nearly as well. It's all about cutting that high self esteem the beautiful girls have right at the knees, not in a malicious way, but making her second guess herself. Worrying about coming off as a social retard isnt even the issue really, that shows you're "different", not the guy that's going to throw compliments back and forth. It's difficult to explain because I know you dont mean it to that extent but playing these games with the more beautiful girls always work better. Why do you think the girls tend to fall for the bad boys? A bad boy will treat her like anyone else. He'll build sexual tension and keep it fun for her and never make her feel uncomfortable but he will not give her the satisfaction she wants. He'll take it away with these compliments, making her feel back to square one. You have your own method and im sure it works. I've just been around alot of people who were great with women and they were never too short to throw a few back-handed compliments. All they'd do is giggle and play it off but I think deep in their little mind it eats at them, since thats playing off the very fabric of women. Attention. When you down play that, the game's on.

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