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| Author: | T0m [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | This opener? |
Ok, so I'm of to a house party tomorrow and I wanted to get some openers ready. I have one, obviously I can't use the same one at a house party, but I need to know if what I have is usable. Im going to use it anyway, I believe in trial and error (but with minimal errors I hope). Hear it is. [When you approach, put your hand on her arm.] PUA – Hey nice party, do you want to know something? HB8 – Ummm, ok PUA – "Ummm, ok"? Now I'm not telling you! HB8 – "(Laughs)" PUA – Ok, but now you ow me. Do you know “(Famous hot female, only needs to look a little like the target.)”? HB8 – Oh yeah! [Yes, no, anything along those lines.] PUA – She's a good actor don't you think? HB8 – Yeah she is, …. [continue conversation a little if the situation calls for it, but no to long] [You want her to ask the question next so try to avoid conversation; have a drink, tighten your tie, ect.] HB8 – I thought you where going to tell me something? (Laughs) PUA – Well its just you look like her. HB8 – Really! PUA – Yeah I thought you would like to know. What do ya think?... |
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| Author: | PUA Kenny [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:30 pm ] |
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Well,I couldnt see me using that opener,not that anything's wrong with it,it's just that it relys too much on what the target will or may say. Since it's your routine,you can more communicate the vibe. But I love the hand on her shoulder part;very alpha. |
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| Author: | LD [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This opener? |
Quote: Ok, so I'm of to a house party tomorrow and I wanted to get some openers ready. I have one, obviously I can't use the same one at a house party, but I need to know if what I have is usable.
hi man. Im going to use it anyway, I believe in trial and error (but with minimal errors I hope). Hear it is. [When you approach, put your hand on her arm.] PUA – Hey nice party, do you want to know something? HB8 – Ummm, ok PUA – "Ummm, ok"? Now I'm not telling you! HB8 – "(Laughs)" PUA – Ok, but now you ow me. Do you know “(Famous hot female, only needs to look a little like the target.)”? HB8 – Oh yeah! [Yes, no, anything along those lines.] PUA – She's a good actor don't you think? HB8 – Yeah she is, …. [continue conversation a little if the situation calls for it, but no to long] [You want her to ask the question next so try to avoid conversation; have a drink, tighten your tie, ect.] HB8 – I thought you where going to tell me something? (Laughs) PUA – Well its just you look like her. HB8 – Really! PUA – Yeah I thought you would like to know. What do ya think?... to be honest, i wouldnt try this. this feels like an excuse to talk. Quote: PUA – Hey nice party, do you want to know something?
I am not flaming you amigo, just saying my thoughts. this just feels like an opener, canned and not really sincere. Hey nice party, do you want to know something.HB8 – Ummm, ok PUA – "Ummm, ok"? Now I'm not telling you! HB8 – "(Laughs)" PUA – Ok, but now you ow me. are you going to talk about the party or are you going to talk about something else? Then you say: ok, but now you owe me. ??? she owes you for what? because she laughed? she cant laugh? I am not really getting it. This feels like an excuse to talk. it is like you want to hide that you actually want to talk to her and get to know her. I also ask myself: what if the opener ends? what are you going to do then? ask who she is? Why wouldnt you do that right away? show some genuine interest from the start? Something simple, like 'hi, how are you? how come? etc. that is making a conversation. ofcourse, this is just my opinion. ciao! |
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| Author: | T0m [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:05 pm ] |
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Your both right, going to shorten it and see how it turns out.... tonight. Thanks for the help, always better to get a second opinion. |
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| Author: | Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:56 pm ] |
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I agree. Sounds really strange, and is REALLY LONG. Owe you what exactly? Remember, it's a house party. People already know each other, and there's social pressure to be at least polite to people your friends know. It's not a cold approach where they can just turn their back on you in the middle of a sentence. Now, I wouldn't say going super direct at a party would be a good plan, if you go round telling the girls how hot they are and you get blown out a bunch of times, it might look weird. However, you don't need to go massively under the radar either. Why not just go up to her, hold some nice seductive eye contact, introduce yourself with a handshake that's just a little too long, and then just ask how she knows X (whoever's party it is)? Remember, in a situation where it would be socially uncalibrated to go direct, you can still make your intentions clear with body language, voice tonality, eye contact and kino. When a guy can be talking chit-chat with her at a cocktail party whilst seducing her with his eyes, she knows that this is a guy who "gets it" and that's the kind of guy she wants to be with. TRY IT! |
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| Author: | kasabi [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:18 pm ] |
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Generally, you'll want to avoid the delayed 'cymbal crash'. You're winding her up, winding her up, and for what? You look like a target model? (Insert crash cymbal and laugh track here.) I've lately noticed some confusion of the term 'direct' in this forum. The pu definition is a bit different from the what you'd see in the dictionary. In pu, going 'direct' is to immediately demonstrate your attraction. Read the dictionary definition here: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/direct Regardless of whether you go the PU 'direct' or PU 'indirect' route, you'll ALWAYS want to convey your message in a direct fashion as defined by the dictionary. You want to lead, be authorative, and be straight forward. All of you know the "Hey, there's a fight outside the club" can. Why does this work? This is a "PU indirect" told in a straight forward, authorative, DIRECT manner. Theoretically, it triggers interest right away. How would this opener work out if you sat there with, "Ooh, I have a secret for you . . . well, I won't tell you . . . OK, but you owe me . . . Well maybe just this once . . ."? If you want to tell her that she looks like a model, just go ahead and let it out. I know that you're really keyed on this one party but there will be plenty more. If it backfires, you'll learn. You might as well as really give something a shot to figure out what works and what doesn't work for you. Technically, I would say that this type of thing is better suited for a club setting and if you simply blurted out something like, "So, you're a model. Your height is a dead giveaway. . . " |
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| Author: | PUA Kenny [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:51 pm ] |
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@Blondguy-you definitely know your stuff from post to post Blondguy. @Tom-In a house-party setting,get together where yall have friend in common,as Blondguy said,you dont need to approach it like a cold approach. That's why I'd said that I like your hand on her shoulder part because in such setting of acquiantances,the target is less likely to reject you. Really no need to fly so low under the radar in such setting(lol). @Kasabi-Lol,the old Mystery's girls fighting outside. Definitely right about 'girls fighting' tone being some what hyped and intriguing. Tom's tone seems rather flat. |
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| Author: | T0m [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:39 pm ] |
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Just want to say thanks you  I went with the shorter opener that LD suggested and got into a really nice conversation. Things went from their and I managed a kiss close with her number. (For the record that's really good for me!) Thanks to everyone, I'm glad I decided to make an account here 
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