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Author:  Herman_Munster [ Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Quick Questions
1. Is it possible to build attraction with someone you already know well, like a good friend or acquaintance? Or is the chance blown within the first few encounters? ie. After not expressing sexual feelings for them.

2. Is it ok to touch chicks on the ass as a way of showing sexual interest? (i don't really mean strangers, maybe some slut at a club or in school) just a spank not really a grab, i used to do it but am wondering, does this create attraction with them?

3. What are the best ways to handle rejection? Is it okay to for eg. Use the '60 years of experience" way and stare them down and make them feel guilty?
Persist at gaming them? Insult them?

4. Should you ask permission before kissing or is that too pussy?

(12:22 edited to further clarify questions)
Author:  kasabi [ Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Quick Questions
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1. Is it possible to build attraction with someone who already known you, is your friend or acquaintance? Or is the chance blown within the first few encounters?
For you, the answer is NO. You're only looking to game people you already know because you lack the confidence to meet new people. If you lack this confidence, you won't be able to game the hb4 introduced to you by your aunt.
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2. Is it ok to touch chicks on the ass as a way of showing sexual interest? (i don't really mean strangers, maybe some slut at a club or in school) just a spank not really a grab
Treat sluts like princesses. Treat prissy princesses like sluts. Do both while you're one on one.
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3. What are some acceptable ways to handle rejection? Is it okay to for eg. Use the '60 years of experience" way and stare them down and make them feel guilty?
Persist at applying your game? Insult them? Leave?
Try getting rejected a few times first.
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4. Should you ask permission before kissing or is that too pussy?
Try searching "K close" on this site.
Author:  coolhandjay [ Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:04 pm ]
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"Treat sluts like princesses. Treat prissy princesses like sluts. Do both while you're one on one."

LOVE it.
Author:  Herman_Munster [ Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Quick Questions
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1. Is it possible to build attraction with someone who already known you, is your friend or acquaintance? Or is the chance blown within the first few encounters?
For you, the answer is NO. You're only looking to game people you already know because you lack the confidence to meet new people. If you lack this confidence, you won't be able to game the hb4 introduced to you by your aunt.
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2. Is it ok to touch chicks on the ass as a way of showing sexual interest? (i don't really mean strangers, maybe some slut at a club or in school) just a spank not really a grab
Treat sluts like princesses. Treat prissy princesses like sluts. Do both while you're one on one.
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3. What are some acceptable ways to handle rejection? Is it okay to for eg. Use the '60 years of experience" way and stare them down and make them feel guilty?
Persist at applying your game? Insult them? Leave?
Try getting rejected a few times first.
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4. Should you ask permission before kissing or is that too pussy?
Try searching "K close" on this site.
Are you fucking with me?
My questions are actually meant to be answered seriously.
Author:  Herman_Munster [ Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:16 pm ]
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Searching k close does shit all as it's used all the time, I have confidence it's just that I want to know whether it's possible to get out of the friend zone easily, the problem is I'm friends with too many chicks.

My other questions are perfectly valid and I didn't expect such a dickhead response considering I'm new to this whole thing, seeking help, but thanks anyway kasabi.
Author:  kasabi [ Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:28 pm ]
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Searching k close does shit all as it's used all the time
Really? If you actually took the time to SEARCH K CLOSE in this forum, you'd see that plenty newbies are sucking face. The reality is that what ever you're doing is the "shit all".
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I have confidence it's just that I want to know whether it's possible to get out of the friend zone easily, the problem is I'm friends with too many chicks.
Really? So you have the confidence to make "TOO MANY FRIENDS WITH CHICKS". The gay guy who does my hair can do that. If you really had confidence, you'd be banging them. You don't have confidence because you don't know anything about this. Even if somebody here were to write up a decent "how to game your friends" routine, you'd never go through with it because this is an IMPOSSIBILITY from where you are. Start from page 1 of game instead of thinking that you're some guy who needs to just 'brush up' on this topic.
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My other questions are perfectly valid and I didn't expect such a dickhead response considering I'm new to this whole thing, seeking help, but thanks anyway kasabi.
And my answers were quick, to the point, and very serious. I suspected that you couldn't possibly understand most but YOU DO UNDERSTAND how to to press the search button. Go for it unless you want to go through the rest of your life as the gay hair salon guy of your group.
Author:  kasabi [ Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:43 pm ]
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"Treat sluts like princesses. Treat prissy princesses like sluts. Do both while you're one on one."

LOVE it.
. . . Then you understand why this works. Nothing like telling that prissy girl:

"Hey . . . I saw you at _____ club the other day."
Princess: What are you talking about?
You: So you sucked face with a bunch of guys. No biggie. I still think you're cool."
Princess: Seriously, that couldn't have been me.
You: Maybe not but it could have. What with your rep as the wild party girl. . . So when are we going surfing?

And telling the girl with a rep:

"Hey . . . why are you looking me like that? No kisses until the 3rd date. I'm a gentleman. First date is a box of chocolates and a trip to Friendly's. . . " etc . . .
Author:  Herman_Munster [ Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:06 am ]
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You are an absolute joke, how could you ever infer that I claim to be an expert in PUA or even a half expert??
If I knew so much and was arrogant about it I wouldn't be asking questions and labelling myself as a noob.

It seems your shallow, bully type side has really been exposed. It was you who iniated conflict with your comment about how I couldn't even talk to a HB4 and how I was never rejected, clearly inferring that I have never asked a girl out.
You seem to have easily forgotten this as you now defend yourself, pretending to a nice guy trying to help out newbies.

I have started from page one of game, and If you had any experience you would realise that as the questions I'm asking I'm sure are quite obvious to most PUA's

The reason I come to these forums is not because I don't have AA or confidence issues it's because I can't create attraction, and am locked into the friend zone with too many chicks, if that's too hard a concept to handle then I think you may need to reinvest into an education.

And you still haven't answered my questions.

What is the best way to reject someone?
Does touching chicks on the ass create attraction?
Is it possible to escape the friend zone?
Author:  kasabi [ Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:16 am ]
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I have started from page one of game
Go ahead and share with us what "page one" of game means to you.
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The reason I come to these forums is not because I don't have AA or confidence issues it's because I can't create attraction, and am locked into the friend zone with too many chicks,
Forget the double negative. I understand what you're trying to say. So tell use how your approach prowess and your abundance of confidence led you to "friend zones" with "too many chicks". Tell us what your 'confidence' led you to do? What is it? Please enlighten us with your "confident game". I'd love to read some more.
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What is the best way to reject someone?
Although I am unclear how ^ = "What are some acceptable ways to handle rejection?", the answers to BOTH questions can be found by:

Try getting rejected a few times first.
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Does touching chicks on the ass create attraction?
Treat sluts like princesses. Treat prissy princesses like sluts. Do both while you're one on one.
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Is it possible to escape the friend zone?
For you, the answer is NO. You're only looking to game people you already know because you lack the confidence to meet new people. If you lack this confidence, you won't be able to game the hb4 introduced to you by your aunt. (Game ≠ talking her head off about whatever it is that you do to create 'friends' out of potential fuck mates.)

I'm not here to cut anybody down. In fact, i love replying to posts that require only a few tweaks in the communication process for the poster to realize SUCCESS. You are not even close and I feel for your frustrations. Unfortunately, it seems that I feel for your frustrations even more than you.

*Whenever I see a fat, ugly chick, my heart breaks. My heart breaks because she won't ever experience FUCKING unless she gets approached by some kid with serious inferiority issues who thinks that they can only get a piece from a FAT UGLY CHICK.

Reading your post breaks my heart as well. . .
Author:  Diego1234567 [ Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:30 am ]
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I have started from page one of game
Go ahead and share with us what "page one" of game means to you.
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The reason I come to these forums is not because I don't have AA or confidence issues it's because I can't create attraction, and am locked into the friend zone with too many chicks,
Forget the double negative. I understand what you're trying to say. So tell use how your approach prowess and your abundance of confidence led you to "friend zones" with "too many chicks". Tell us what your 'confidence' led you to do? What is it? Please enlighten us with your "confident game". I'd love to read some more.
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What is the best way to reject someone?
Although I am unclear how ^ = "What are some acceptable ways to handle rejection?", the answers to BOTH questions can be found by:

Try getting rejected a few times first.
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Does touching chicks on the ass create attraction?
Treat sluts like princesses. Treat prissy princesses like sluts. Do both while you're one on one.
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Is it possible to escape the friend zone?
For you, the answer is NO. You're only looking to game people you already know because you lack the confidence to meet new people. If you lack this confidence, you won't be able to game the hb4 introduced to you by your aunt. (Game ≠ talking her head off about whatever it is that you do to create 'friends' out of potential fuck mates.)

I'm not here to cut anybody down. In fact, i love replying to posts that require only a few tweaks in the communication process for the poster to realize SUCCESS. You are not even close and I feel for your frustrations. Unfortunately, it seems that I feel for your frustrations even more than you.

*Whenever I see a fat, ugly chick, my heart breaks. My heart breaks because she won't ever experience FUCKING unless she gets approached by some kid with serious inferiority issues who thinks that they can only get a piece from a FAT UGLY CHICK.

Reading your post breaks my heart as well. . .

Kasabi...did you just school someone?

also Herman, he is trying to help, they were very to the point. Be more sexual just not a predator.
Author:  Algorythm [ Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:45 pm ]
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What is the best way to reject someone?

Although I am unclear how ^ = "What are some acceptable ways to handle rejection?", the answers to BOTH questions can be found by:

Try getting rejected a few times first.
Dude Kasabi is right you need to experience rejection in order for you to find the best way to reject someone.
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The reason I come to these forums is not because I don't have AA or confidence issues it's because I can't create attraction, and am locked into the friend zone with too many chicks,
We are all here to help not to AMOG! The reason your here is not because you have problem with attraction, its because you have a problem!.

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Does touching chicks on the ass create attraction?
No, that just shows your a sleaze who doesnt have enough confident to talk to a women.
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Is it possible to escape the friend zone?
seriously dude you need to read the forum 1st and read the topics people have been discussing about, every week is like the same questions over and over.

Welcome to the forum :)
Author:  biggus [ Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:23 pm ]
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this thread is comedy gold :)
Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Quick Questions
1. In a social circle situation, you can meet them through friends a few times and because of social norms it would be ok to not kino plough. However, in general, you're shooting yourself in the foot the longer you don't show that you're interested. If you don't escalate, she will rationalise that you're not attracted to her, or you're a pussy or you're gay. The way out of the friend zone is to freeze out for a while, and see her again in the company of other women and be incredibly flirty and sexual.

2. Yes. If you make it clear you are a flirty guy, you can get away with all kinds of shit that might seem sleazy, as long as you do it in a non-creepy way. (Basically with a smile and a cheeky wink, NOT looking like you're getting some kind of paedo sexual gratification out of it, just like you're having a bit of fun).

3. NEVER insult or make a woman feel guilty just because you get rejected. First off, separate a "token" rejection from a real rejection. A real rejection is e.g. if she looks away quickly unsmiling or really coldly or with a frown or a disgusted look and/or says "NO / GO AWAY / FUCK OFF." If she blushes or laughs or just smiles a little whilst saying no or giving you some shitty insult, just don't react to it and keep going. She likes you but is putting up token resistance so she doesn't feel too "easy."

4. NEVER ask permission. The best way to k-close is to build sexual tension through kino escalating using push-pull. Then have her facing you, look into one eye, then the other, then her mouth, then her eye again spending 1 sec on each (triangular gazing), then go on 90% and let her go the last 10%.

Final point, Kasabi may be a blunt fucker sometimes, but some people need to be kicked up the ass before they start realising shit. He knows his stuff, listen to him and don't be so quick to react when you feel insulted or threatened. Maybe he's got some legitimate points. Maybe he doesn't understand you and he's got the wrong end of the stick. Either way, the best way to deal with both is to be calm about it.
Author:  Herman_Munster [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:46 am ]
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Thank fucking god I got an anwser.
Thankyou blond guy.

I just want to leave the thread on this note.

Yes my questions were not well written, even still, there is no possible way one could derive or infer that I have never been rejected, have the inability to game a fugly chick or not have the confidence to game someone I did not know. This line was the best "You're only looking to game people you already know because you lack the confidence to meet new people." I guess you magically knew that from being such a guru.
It's infact very, very wrong but since you know best, I'll just have to ignore reality and accept, I've never gamed someone I didn't know.

I realise I am an AFC but I certainly do not have AA or confidence issues.

It is possible to have all the confidence in the world but still be terrible at picking up chicks. From what I have read, it's about saying the right things (building rapport, commonality from MM), kino, body language and inner game. That is what I need to work on, not confidence. Sure, I don't have confidence to start a fight with some massive nigga, but girls don't scare me, as I live with them and talk to them all the time.

Kasabi, I feel maybe, you were insulted that I dared to question you response. Obviously being a king of an online pua forum must hold a special place in your heart. but bear in mind some people, (even noobs) will find your anwsers unsatisfactory.
Also I love how you misquoted me with the "i started from page one of game", even though it was in response to your accusation that i didn't start from page one, whatever that is.
Author:  Diego1234567 [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:25 am ]
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Thank fucking god I got an anwser.
Thankyou blond guy.

I just want to leave the thread on this note.

Yes my questions were not well written, even still, there is no possible way one could derive or infer that I have never been rejected, have the inability to game a fugly chick or not have the confidence to game someone I did not know. This line was the best "You're only looking to game people you already know because you lack the confidence to meet new people." I guess you magically knew that from being such a guru.
It's infact very, very wrong but since you know best, I'll just have to ignore reality and accept, I've never gamed someone I didn't know.

I realise I am an AFC but I certainly do not have AA or confidence issues.

It is possible to have all the confidence in the world but still be terrible at picking up chicks. From what I have read, it's about saying the right things (building rapport, commonality from MM), kino, body language and inner game. That is what I need to work on, not confidence. Sure, I don't have confidence to start a fight with some massive nigga, but girls don't scare me, as I live with them and talk to them all the time.

Kasabi, I feel maybe, you were insulted that I dared to question you response. Obviously being a king of an online pua forum must hold a special place in your heart. but bear in mind some people, (even noobs) will find your anwsers unsatisfactory.
Also I love how you misquoted me with the "i started from page one of game", even though it was in response to your accusation that i didn't start from page one, whatever that is.
Racism isn't cool dude.

I like how you accept Blondguy's advice that you wanted but not his advice on being civil.

And now you're insulting his place on an online forum (which implies you are insulting the forum) which you so desperatley need advice from because your confidence is so high you've made friends with girls you were too afraid to game, too scared to kiss a girl and if you hung around girls you'd know grabbing ass doesnt create attraction.


racism isn't cool dude. respect people giving advice. If your confidence was good and you didnt have AA you could have easily answered your own questions.

Shah
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