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| Author: | robizeratul [ Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | first succes with PU material and the elusive NO |
So after reading and reading finally oportunity arise,a girl that i found kinda atractive was leaving my classrom(we where in the same class,this time..long story)So i went before her,and just hang there,trying to look cool.Where she comes with another girl,i tell myself i wont chicken out,so i'm like: "hey that italian teacher is very crazy,do you understand what she says?" "uhm yes,i like italian(i knew that)" "my uncle is from italy,and i need help with italian...could you please give me some help?" "uhm i don't know..you should ask the teacher" "give me your YM and well talk about it,i'm to shy to talk to the teacher..." "bla bla bla" "bla bla bla" and then she gave me her YM.I talked to her,and i saw that she's a Jesus freak,trying to save my soul and shit like that...to complex for me... So 2-3 weeks pass,and her friend comes to me and talkes about her broken Ipod bla bla bla,getting into very technical shit and useless storyes(was this a pick up attempt?)and i ask for her YM,cuz "i know a guy..." We go to a date,and it was very cool,first time every!!i picked up girls but not like this.After a while we go to the park,it was freezing and i put my hand on her(first bigger kino move)she's like "you'r putting your hand on my boob!..." didn't even know what to respond,only said i'm cold:)) we go home,i'm to chicken to kiss her,so i wait for the final ocasian,i look pretend to look about for something,the way that i will be directly in front of her.I look down again,seeing her,and go for the kiss.It was good. She said the next day that she didn't want a relationship,so i'm like whatever...I talk to her again the following day and ask her out again,she accepted.I must go again with her to see what happens. So this was my first succes with PU material,used some negs,lame opener...a little bit of everything,kino,listening to her..and so on. And now for the elusive no,i would apreciate if some PUAs would voice they're opinion. From the day i met her,she was always NO!!-ish.First she didn't want to go with me,than he made up her mind.She acted distant then came closer,she said one thing,did another.Is this some shit test?or she really doesen't know what she wants?there war many instances,she acts like i'm just a friend,the next moment she shows IOI's. Someone explain? |
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| Author: | mrcoffee999888 [ Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:31 pm ] |
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Being able to read IOI's properly is a skill that cannot be simply totally learned in a book, rather must be practiced. My best guess is that the IOI's you're reading are just friendly. and you haven't built up the proper attraction. Just in general I'll go over some issues i have with this interaction. -You put a lot of pressure on HER to "give" you something or "DO" something. ex. giving you her Yahoo Messenger, and to go out with you etc.. I would attempt to mask your intentions a bit more. you showed her all of your cards. Now she has all of the power.. That's never a good thing. - No asking about a broken Ipod does not imply her trying to pick you up. In fact i see it as kind of.. Her friends and herself are attempting to use you if they thought you had connections to fix her ipod, and it worked. because you bought into their frame and asked for her info. Don't become that go to friend guy that girls talk to when they want to use someone. |
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| Author: | Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: first succes with PU material and the elusive NO |
Quote: So i went before her,and just hang there,trying to look cool.
GAY.Quote:
i need help with italian...could you please give me some help?"
DOUBLE GAYQuote:
i'm to shy to talk to the teacher..."
TRIPLE GAY.DLV = display of LOWER value. You should AVOID telling her you are bad at things, asking her for help, saying you are shy, etc. DHV - display of HIGHER value. You SHOULD talk about yourself in a positive light (NOT bragging) such as stories involving you overcoming adversity, achieving a goal, being around other women, having friends, helping people, being giving, being kind with you family, etc. Quote:
i put my hand on her(first bigger kino move)she's like "you'r putting your hand on my boob!..." didn't even know what to respond,only said i'm cold:))
WHAT. THE. FUCK. Why not just slap her in the face with your dick next time, jesus. Look up what a KINO ESCALATION LADDER is. You have to start small and work your way up it. Quote:
we go home,i'm to chicken to kiss her,so i wait for the final ocasian,i look pretend to look about for something,the way that i will be directly in front of her.I look down again,seeing her,and go for the kiss.It was good.
More gay. Kino escalate smoothly first, then just take a time when there's a pause in conversation, look at one eye, then the other, then her mouth, then her eye again = TRIANGULAR GAZING, then move in for the kiss 90% and she will move in the last 10%. NEVER wait until the end of the date otherwise it's a state break.Quote:
She said the next day that she didn't want a relationship,so i'm like whatever...I talk to her again the following day and ask her out again,she accepted.I must go again with her to see what happens.
She said that because you acted like a pussy and groped her. She probably said yes to get you to shut up or out of pity. She will friend zone you again when you see her.Quote:
she was always NO!!-ish.First she didn't want to go with me,than he made up her mind.She acted distant then came closer,she said one thing,did another.Is this some shit test?or she really doesen't know what she wants?there war many instances,she acts like i'm just a friend,the next moment she shows IOI's.
She was initially attracted to you and then you kept being a fucking retard. She let you off a few times when you screwed up because of that attraction. I doubt she will give you another chance.Someone explain? The trick with PU (which by the way I see exactly ZERO examples of you using in this report) is to escalate smoothly and confidently, and hardly ever give her a CHANCE to say no. For example: AFC: Could I please have your number? PUA: We gotta hang out again soon, let's exchange contact details. AFC: Would you like to kiss me? (sorry mystery) PUA: ... AFC: Would you like to come back to my place for, um, coffee? PUA: Let's swing by mine quickly so I can give you that CD but you gotta get going cuz I have work tomorrow. Please learn how to use punctuation properly - you put a space after. What the fuck is YM? Are you like 14 or something? |
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| Author: | Jelly [ Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:45 pm ] |
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Quote: "you'r putting your hand on my boob!..."
I dont know whether to say win or fail. This is the first WinFail ever
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| Author: | robizeratul [ Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:11 pm ] |
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i'm not gay,but i get the point "i put my hand on her(first bigger kino move)she's like "you'r putting your hand on my boob!..." didn't even know what to respond,only said i'm cold:))" I didn't express myself properly,i've put my hand over her neck,she then leaned on me. SHe did it in a way that i touched her boob without even noticing:P Thanks for all your help!i hope in the near future i will have a better story. The thing with the PU is that there's to much info!!! being whith her i couldn't focus. I only thought what to do,and in a fiew seconds i was overwhelmed.I kept remembering all the posts from here,all the advice some of you gave,and after a while i just chickened out. Kept thinking about each methong and what to do next,and after that i choose the easyest and most afc way. We will meet again and this time i need to man up. Even if you could my actions gay a couple of times,it's still better than not doing nothing.I will post what happened here,hope they will be good news. Suddenly i see it different after some of your replied. The truth is a feel a that i progressed a little,so there is still hope! Thanks for you explaining. YM=yahoo messenger. And i'm 18 not 14,even though many 14 year olds had way more GFs like me,hope dies last huh?:P It's my first succes with PU material because it was an attemt to do something,thanks to this forum i kissed her,it's progress for an afc |
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| Author: | icipher [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:18 pm ] |
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Go for it man! Don't let those comments get to you, the most important thing is that you TRIED! Ok, you definitely need to work on a few details but you surely are in the good path By the way... "sorry mystery"? LOL dude that K-close line is brilliant, you just need the right context, that's it 
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| Author: | Little Panda [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:00 am ] |
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Rule number 1: There are no rules (sorry blondguy). You actually kissed her even though she barely accepted going on a date with you earlier. And now she wants to go on another date? You're doing really good. I'm not saying you're a master pick up artist or anything, but you are on the right path and that's what matters! Next time, try escalating for more than just a kiss  Keep up the good work! Quote: Quote: "you'r putting your hand on my boob!..."
I dont know whether to say win or fail. This is the first WinFail ever |
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| Author: | SRVisGod24 [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:51 am ] |
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Hey, you approached, got her out on a day 2 and you got a k-close, not bad man!! And it doesn't sound like she freaked out too badly when your hand grabbed or grazed her boob. Heck, when I put my arm around a girl, a lot of the time my hand will end up lying right on top of her boob  . So did you actually grab a handful of her boob or did your hand just rest on top of her boob?
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| Author: | robizeratul [ Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:03 pm ] |
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The second date was way more better,i was more confident and made a lot of progress.The 3. and 4. was natural and we had a lot of fun.We had some special moments and the "she's different" trap was ever present.Until 5 minutes ago when she said that she talked with her old BF and made up with him.SO now they are together and i am again left with my right hand. I fell so angry,not at her but at me!for more than a year i knew about PU and i didn't do nothing,just waiting and hoping for who knows what,and talking myself out of doing any progress. But not today!3 hours are left from this day,and it's the last i will spend as a whiny afc.This will not happen again,and if it will,i will have no problem letting her go,because i did something not just stood by as another guy takes my girl. Fuck that,this is the best thing that ever happened to me!!i will never forget the way i feel now,and success is the only option! No more mister nice guy!!!!! |
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| Author: | Dannyozzy [ Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:22 am ] |
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hey dudes lay off the guy he kissed her didnt he? plus it was his first ever attemp, how is rippin that gna encourage anything? i never got a kiss on my first attempt haha good job lad keep it up! if she doesnt wanna relationship what evs plenty more were that came from:) |
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