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Author:  Deaf PUA [ Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:10 am ]
Post subject:  Question about Social Value
Girls at my college aren't really fond of me because I have this horrific reputation of a guy who get very drunk and all touchy-feely at parties. I know girls typically gossip with their friends about guys they know... who to avoid and who is attractive. It's like an approval for a girl from their friends to consider to attract or date that guy... you know what I mean? I mean, I have this thought.. if girls find you attractive or "approve" you, you are "pre-selected" or dateable but if girls see you as a disease, is to be avoided. So how do you improve your social value among girls? How do you change girls' viewpoint of who you are to give you a chance to get to know you instead of what they hear about you? It's tough to game these girls who might have hear of my reputation because my college is small and everyone has their own reputation so I need really your help to get rid of this old reputation and become this attractive male who are well liked among girls.
Author:  Shinigaml [ Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Question about Social Value
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Girls at my college aren't really fond of me because I have this horrific reputation of a guy who get very drunk and all touchy-feely at parties. I know girls typically gossip with their friends about guys they know... who to avoid and who is attractive. It's like an approval for a girl from their friends to consider to attract or date that guy... you know what I mean? I mean, I have this thought.. if girls find you attractive or "approve" you, you are "pre-selected" or dateable but if girls see you as a disease, is to be avoided. So how do you improve your social value among girls? How do you change girls' viewpoint of who you are to give you a chance to get to know you instead of what they hear about you? It's tough to game these girls who might have hear of my reputation because my college is small and everyone has their own reputation so I need really your help to get rid of this old reputation and become this attractive male who are well liked among girls.
Well... people will judge you based on what they think of you. Not what you appear to be. And that is the truth. If you see a bike with a weird frame design, you will think that it probably sucks and is just for fancy looks. Same for as if you saw a drunk guy who gets touchy. That's what they judge you on, not who you appear to be.

You have already done immense damage to your reputation as word easily gets out quick between girl gossips. You better believe that they know you as the creepy drunk touchy guy.

And I hope you dont under exaggerate when you say you get all touchy-feely. Are you actually refering to creeping girls out and touching them in inappropriate areas? By that I mean anything where the girl wouldn't want to be touched. That can even be something as simple as the arm or shoulders if you've just met the girl.

Honestly it'll be very hard to get someone to change their opinions of you. Once you have an opinion, you don't really want to change it or everything in your processing system gets fucked up because as humans, we put a label on everything. And we don't like "change" that much. Unless you can REALLY change that part about you, they won't think differently about you.

So your biggest problem is that you can't control how much you drink. If you really want to get the girls you will know that being pissed drunk does not equal getting laid. In fact it's the complete opposite. Why do you think real PUA's only drink a few beers at max? Some don't even drink man. The problem right now isn't a matter of "how to raise social value" but more like "how am I gona stop drinking so much"

Try only drinking a max of 4-5 beers and just talk to girls. Learn the basics of kino, that may also be your problem. And caliberate and gauge her body language to see if you should stop esclating. And never at any point say something in the lines of "See, I'm not that creepy touchy drunk guy everyone knows me as". If you do this from now and until forever, they will slowly change their opinions of you. Verbalizing it will only show that you are insecure and a loser.

Hope you can get your drinking problems fixed! GL
Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:34 pm ]
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1. Get your drinking under control
2. Learn how to kino non-creepily

Once you've got this sorted, then

3. Change your style - get new clothes, a new haircut, etc.
4. Hang out with a new group of friends

The last two will help remove the associations people have about you and your past behaviour. When they see you looking different and acting different, everything will be congruent with the "new you" and you can refresh your reputation.

A good idea would be to game girls at other universities and local girls in nearby towns, so that word doesn't get back to the girls in your uni, until you are more confident and your game is tighter.
Author:  Deaf PUA [ Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:43 pm ]
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Thanks for your replies, guys. I know I have done major damage to my reputation and takes very long to fix my reputation. Learn how to control my drinking, have a new group of friends, and looks will be the start before I can game girls at college parties. Of course, I am not going to say something dumb like "Hey! I have change now for the better and I will not to get fucked up at parties"... I don't want to be a loser for saying something like this! People want to see action, not what you say you will change to see the actual change. But can I apology to those girls I got touchy with when drunk? I mean, alpha male would apology for something that he think or felt the situation he did/knew is very wrong, right?
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