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Author:  Tebu [ Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:14 am ]
Post subject:  Issues I had with mall/shopping centre approaching

I wanted to approach girls that I found attractive that were alone. But the ones that were alone that I found attractive were rare (saw about 5 in 4 hours), then when I saw one they seemed to be in a rush. So I followed them (without being creepy) just to strike up a conversation when they were not moving. But they'd walk into a woman's underwear store or go to the female section of a clothing store.

What do I do about this?

Author:  Solteris [ Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:24 am ]
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Dont wait until you find girls that you consider 10's. If you walk around and wait for that perfect girl, you're not taking into account the logistics of being in such a public place, it's tough to single out one specific girl and make an ACTUAL attempt at getting to know her.

Thats another important thing, it's alot of pressure on yourself to try and pick up girls that way. Like I was saying earlier, talk to as many girls as you can and strike up conversations all over the mall. You're there to have fun. Women will smell the outcome driven mentality in you if you wait all that time and finally approach a girl you like. She's gonna read inbetween the lines and know what your motive is.

Now, say if you've spent those four hours getting to know as many people as you could in that time, when you do see that girl, she wont be any different than the others. You'll approach her as naturally as you did everyone else. You might even meet some other cute girls and get their number.

Make that entire mall your comfort zone and get to know as many people as you can. Make observations about the area, about her, about anything in general and run with it.

This post is long winded but your problem goes deeper than what to do if they go into a womans clothing store. I used to do EXACTLY what your doing now. I've wasted numerous hours and gas money walking around malls waiting for that perfect girl.

It wasn't until I made a complete paradigm shift and just started trying to meet as many people as I could, did I really start having more fun going out, and that alone made my approaches 200% easier.

How do you engage these women by the way? Im not trying to bust your balls about every little thing. I really do want to see you go out and kick ass out there. You know as well as I do that hunting down girls you find super attractive and letting opportunities all around you slide wont get you anywhere anytime soon.

Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:40 am ]
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Don't worry about them seeming in a hurry. If they are coming towards you, stand a bit in front of them, say excuse me confidently whilst making eye contact and smiling, and then deliver your opener. If they are walking away from you, simply tap them on the arm or shoulder and then do the same. Sometimes "excuse me, didn't mean to startle you but..." is required if they are surprised when you catch them from behind, but it's only temporary and as long as you remember to smile you signal you are not a threat.

You can usually open a girl who has headphones on by motioning for her to take them out whilst smiling, and then opening when she does so. If she's on the phone this is more difficult but not unheard of. A direct opener is more appropriate in these cases.

Finally, if she runs into a victoria's secret and you really want to talk to her, then you can do a couple of things. You can go in, and open her indirectly by asking her opinion on some items you are buying for a female friend / girlfriend. You could instead make sure she doesn't notice you, and catch her on her way out of the store, when it would be fine to go direct or indirect depending on what you prefer.

Finally, if you only see one hot girl an hour, maybe go to some larger, more popular shopping areas where there are more girls! Also, even if you have high standards for the girls you date, it's certainly not a waste of time to open 6s and 7s just to get your social muscles going and build your confidence before you hit the 9s and 10s.

Author:  Tebu [ Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:49 pm ]
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@Solteris - Yeah I kind of went in with high standards. I was thinking briefly "maybe I should talk to every single girl I can" right before I left. But then I just abandoned that idea. The only girl I talked to that I found attractive was a girl trying to sell me something -_- The conversation died when she said, "so are you interested in.."

Yeah I understand what you're saying about the pressure. It's makes it seem like I have limited chances. Also, they were walking FAST. Like it's not because they saw me and were running away but they were in a rush to be somewhere. That's a good idea, just try and have fun. I'll see how that mind frame goes.

For some reason after I'm at the mall I have a massive headache when I get home and after all those hours I'm squinting at everyone because my eyes are burning. They end up super bloodshot and 60% red. I can't imagine a squinting red eyed man is real attractive. They'd think I was high or something.

@blondguy - Seems like it'd take a lot more courage stopping a girl by tapping her on the shoulder or standing in front of her. But after I get my confidence up I'll see how it goes. I'll never see the girls again anyway.

Going into the lingerie store or whatever to ask for her opinion is a great idea. Or even just having that as an excuse if she asks. I'd just worry about getting to the point when I don't actually buy anything and just leave.

Yeah after hearing it from you two I guess I'll just approach any girl my age that looks friendly enough. Even if they're not up to my standards. I also noticed girls are in two's a lot.

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